Tragic deaths at Port Hamble Marina

[MikeB.]

A timely reminder to all to fit a carbon monoxide detector(s) and to test it regularly.
Condolences to all involved, not forgetting the staff at Port Hamble Marina

Two men found dead on boat after carbon monoxide poisoning

https://www.gov.uk/.../safety-flyer-to-the-recreational...

 

[vas]

sorry, stupid Q, how did the exhaust fumes got in the fully enclosed canopy?
not very familiar with outdrive setups, but must be an issue with exhaust elbows or whatnot?

 

[MikeB.]

sorry, stupid Q, how did the exhaust fumes got in the fully enclosed canopy?
not very familiar with outdrive setups, but must be an issue with exhaust elbows or whatnot?

More explanation here https://www.gov.uk/.../safety-flyer-to-the-recreational...

 

[Elessar]

A timely reminder to all to fit a carbon monoxide detector(s) and to test it regularly.
Condolences to all involved, not forgetting the staff at Port Hamble Marina

Two men found dead on boat after carbon monoxide poisoning

https://www.gov.uk/.../safety-flyer-to-the-recreational...

I’ve CO alarms in every cabin.
But not in the cockpit.
Im going to change that.

 

[stelican]

I would imagine a slight breeze towards the boat from astern caused the awful result.

 

[SC35]

sorry, stupid Q, how did the exhaust fumes got in the fully enclosed canopy?
not very familiar with outdrive setups, but must be an issue with exhaust elbows or whatnot?

All canopies have gaps around the edges … they aren’t sealed.

 

[Momac]

I would imagine a slight breeze towards the boat from astern caused the awful result.

That will be it.
And unfortunately not the first time
Much less risk with diesels although there is always risk of fumes could come from a neighbouring boat or a portable generator for example.

 

[Boathook]

That will be it.
And unfortunately not the first time
Much less risk with diesels although there is always risk of fumes could come from a neighbouring boat or a portable generator for example.

The cost of a CO alarm spread over its life of around ten years is very small so every boat should have one.

 

[simonfraser]

'Much less risk with diesels'

why is that ? physical design of the machinery or less CO with buring diesel ?

 

[Elessar]

The cost of a CO alarm spread over its life of around ten years is very small so every boat should have one.

I have 4 on board. But I don’t (yet) have one in the cockpit.

 

[Elessar]

'Much less risk with diesels'

why is that ? physical design of the machinery or less CO with buring diesel ?

Eberspacher.
Petrol boat next door.
Complacency……

 

[LBRodders]

The report suggests the positioning of the Ringo on the stern diverted fumes from the surface above the outdrive to under the canopy lip.
See many a tender in this position on smallish boats.

 

[simonfraser]

hm, did not know this, less likely with diesel

Diesel fumes do kill: a case of fatal carbon monoxide poisoning directly attributed to diesel fuel exhaust with a 10-year retrospective case and literature review* - PubMed

 

[penfold]

'Much less risk with diesels'

why is that ? physical design of the machinery or less CO with buring diesel ?

Diesels don't generate much CO, you'd choke on the other stinky fumes generated long before succumbing.

I have 4 on board. But I don’t (yet) have one in the cockpit.

Unless you sit in the cockpit with the hatch shut the ones in the saloon etc will go off well before a dangerous concentration is reached.

 

[Elessar]

Diesels don't generate much CO, you'd choke on the other stinky fumes generated long before succumbing.


Unless you sit in the cockpit with the hatch shut the ones in the saloon etc will go off well before a dangerous concentration is reached.

Whatever. The report made me decide to spend a tenner rather than knowing better. If it’s a tenner wasted I don’t care.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Whatever. The report made me decide to spend a tenner rather than knowing better. If it’s a tenner wasted I don’t care.

Quite. At least you’ll live to regret it.

 

[Momac]

I have 3 CO alarms on the boat.
One in each cabin and one in the saloon,

I am obliged to have at least one CO alarm under the boat safety scheme (BSS) which applies to boats on inland waterways
The BSS is mostly not fit for purpose but this requirement introduced only as recently as in 2019 is a good one.

 

[Parabolica]

How terrible to read. An innocent mistake and oversight with such dire consequences.

I’ll be buying a few new ones too.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Eberspacher.
Petrol boat next door.
Complacency……

2 or 3 years ago i was working on a boat when the CO alarm went off (fortunately i'd recently fitted alarms to this boat), but nothing was running, no engines, genset etc. The boat next door had a petrol genny running on deck and the breeze was blowing exhaust fumes into the boat i was on.

 

[Momac]

'Much less risk with diesels'

why is that ? physical design of the machinery or less CO with buring diesel ?

I believe the CO from a petrol engine exhaust is about 30 times greater than petrol but don't quote me on that.
Why that is so I don't know.
But CO is produced by anything that is burned.