Tradewind Yachts - think I'm going to sell up and buy one!

[Brightwork]

"Incidentally there is another Tradewind - not of the same stable but still a TW nonetheless. Saw her on the Beaulieu some years back and then saw her again last year in Newtown - a one off42 methinks. Perhaps the owner might be able to give us the details:-"

Are you perhaps thinking of the 'Classic 45"? (Four were moulded that I know of).

 

[Pleiades]

Hi Brightwork - I know the Classic 45, very nice boat of course. But this one is definitely a Tradewind, same as the three previously mentioned John Rock designs in some respects but different.
Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

 

[Matelot Joe]

The 33 was the first Tradewind as designed by John Rock. We have his original boat that he owned for a few years, built in 1977, now with a bowspit and a Monitor windvane which makes us nearly 38' overall. The bow spit gives us the opportunity to sail her with cutter rig which when the wind is abeem or in front of the mast gives a far better balance and a little more speed. They are a very comfortable and safe yacht in a sea.
The biggest of the Tradewinds designed by John Rock is the 39, a real ocean going and very seakindly yacht.

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...t=3&o=2&_suid=1358987206076010599642157529992

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/user/johnscottorn/media/IrishSea_zpsa1716f1d.mp4.html?sort=3&o=7

He lengthened the orignal to be 35' but kept the waterline length the same as far as I know. I'll be taking my tape measure to the yard next time i'm down there as there is also a 35 in our yard.

There are 5 hatches in the deck which give a good amount of light, but as many have a great deal of teak inside they have a more homely hue than most modern AWBS for instance.

Many of the boats had a teak deck epoxied down. Mine was fairly shot when I bought her a couple of years back and I stripped it all off and relaid a new layer of epoxied grp with non slip.
http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...pg.html?&_suid=135898799391109920664886388265

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...pg.html?&_suid=135898814832809748809215197844

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...jpg.html?&_suid=13589882758330940499122053569

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...dewindsinOban_zpse1eeb7fb.mp4.html?sort=3&o=6

Tradewind 39 Atlantic crossing....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYegcoIXldM

Thanks for posting John, great shots , the deck looks as if all the work was worth it, way smart. I don't know if you will remember me ? Re-Phone call last year about the Tradewind in Suffolk and deck work on a T33 - Mr J. Humby. I have since acquired a T35 which is in need of a little deck work and hopefully, I will be able to hang on to it a little longer, ( 5/8" thick ! )
Having seen you photos, the thought of cutting it up really shivers me timbers.
One day I hope to emulate Pleiades ! ;-)

 

[BurnitBlue]

Good choice. My previous yacht was a medium to heavy displacement. Enjoyed endless discussions with the light weight fleet owners about the undeniable fact that their light displacement boats were faster than mine.

However, I always noticed that my boat invariably arrived at the destination days and sometimes weeks before the AWB boats because I left when I was ready while they sat around waiting for a weather window.

 

[alant]

The 33 was the first Tradewind as designed by John Rock. We have his original boat that he owned for a few years, built in 1977, now with a bowspit and a Monitor windvane which makes us nearly 38' overall. The bow spit gives us the opportunity to sail her with cutter rig which when the wind is abeem or in front of the mast gives a far better balance and a little more speed. They are a very comfortable and safe yacht in a sea.
The biggest of the Tradewinds designed by John Rock is the 39, a real ocean going and very seakindly yacht.

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...t=3&o=2&_suid=1358987206076010599642157529992

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/user/johnscottorn/media/IrishSea_zpsa1716f1d.mp4.html?sort=3&o=7

He lengthened the orignal to be 35' but kept the waterline length the same as far as I know. I'll be taking my tape measure to the yard next time i'm down there as there is also a 35 in our yard.

There are 5 hatches in the deck which give a good amount of light, but as many have a great deal of teak inside they have a more homely hue than most modern AWBS for instance.

Many of the boats had a teak deck epoxied down. Mine was fairly shot when I bought her a couple of years back and I stripped it all off and relaid a new layer of epoxied grp with non slip.
http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...pg.html?&_suid=135898799391109920664886388265

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...pg.html?&_suid=135898814832809748809215197844

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...jpg.html?&_suid=13589882758330940499122053569

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...dewindsinOban_zpse1eeb7fb.mp4.html?sort=3&o=6

Tradewind 39 Atlantic crossing....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYegcoIXldM

The 39 video looks great (wondering when wallander was about to appear when listening to the music).

PS
Why are the fenders still attached to the guardrails on this one (presumably a 35)?

http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/use...tml?sort=3&o=7

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

The 39 video looks great (wondering when wallander was about to appear when listening to the music).

PS
Why are the fenders still attached to the guardrails on this one (presumably a 35)?
http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...rt=3&o=7&_suid=135905385369008800529324822268
Fenders...
We left Arklow early hours 0400 17.9.12 and swmbo decided to start practising her 'Welsh' so had to retire onto the cabin sole. I therefore decided to treat them as sacrificial rather than go fo' ard in chunky conditions without back-up.

S.

 

[Seajet]

Zagato,

the Tradewind is a great blue water boat, but not too rewarding for Solent or occasional cross - Channel sailing.

Try googling ' Saga ' or ' Saltram ' boats for pure blue water boat porn, British too !


Andy

 

[Pleiades]

Another tease

Now you are another naughty tease Mr Seajet. But as you are a master of matters nautical I can only look forward to the predicted just rewards when my little ship clears the puddles that she normally plods along in and we go blue water...

Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

 

[Seajet]

Now you are another naughty tease Mr Seajet. But as you are a master of matters nautical I can only look forward to the predicted just rewards when my little ship clears the puddles that she normally plods along in and we go blue water...

Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

Robin,


I just mention lovely blue water boats I fancy, haven't been anything like as far as you !

Andy

 

[ianc1200]

I'm in the process of buying a Cornish Crabber and went before Christmas to view some in Holland, including three at Tradewind Yachts in Walsoorden in Zeeland. There were quite a few Tradewinds there for their winter layup in the shed, with one for sale which Austin Lion showed me over. Very impressed with the standard of fit-out - everything seems to be done for quality.

 

[Mrs FG]

Sailed on a trade wind the owner was driven bonkers trying to locate the leaks thru the deck,lots of wheel winding down wind in light wind......and dark below.

Ours doesn't leak, nor do the other two I've been in. Probably less onerous to steer than most other boats I've been on in 44 years; not particularly dark below, in my opinion. Each to their own.

 

[Zagato]

A beautiful, elegant, classic yacht... even the Avon seems proud to be sneaking into the picture!

 

[Pleiades]

The big beastie definitely is a fine vessel - but very different in topsides from the John Rock Tradewind 39 so I think another designer who got permison to use the Tradewind name. From memory I think she is actually a 45 footer - I know John Butler designed a Tradewind 45 which got quite close to production before he had to call it a "Fairwind 45" due to a haggle over the name but she was different again from any of these earlier models. So can the owner please step forward. Clearly designed as a cutter there are may touches carried over from the wee ones like Pleiades

-similar rubbing strake etc - although some Laurent Giles designs share these touches. She is reatively low in the topsides and a bit flatter rather than banana shaped -oops soory boats - I like bananas, no offence intended. I think with all that waterline length and a decent sail area she would be a fast and powerful performer.

Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

Zagato,

the Tradewind is a great blue water boat, but not too rewarding for Solent or occasional cross - Channel sailing.

Try googling ' Saga ' or ' Saltram ' boats for pure blue water boat porn, British too !


Andy

I wonder what you base this upon ???
We used our Tradewind for very similar passages to cross-channel and port hopping trips for a total of 2000nm this last year, with great success. In fact I'd say that the Tradewind is a great choice for exactly that purpose.
The big downside to a Tradewind would be for someone who wanted a club racing boat two or three evenings a week.

 

[Seajet]

I base it upon the characteristics of a heavy displacement long keel design, nothing to do with club racing.

I thought I could see some Biscay 36 traits in the photo ?

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

I base it upon the characteristics of a heavy displacement long keel design, nothing to do with club racing.

Then to help the OP you should make yourself clear

Still not clear how a heavy displacement long keel boat of any sort be an unsuitable boat for channel crossing or port hopping.... which is what I believe you imply ???
Any difficulties brought about by the long keel being a steering disadvantage when going astern in marinas or small harbours are usually easily overcome and the benefits of heavy displacement for a cruiser are well known.

How about doing this up for circumnavigation?...
http://s725.beta.photobucket.com/us...p4.html?&_suid=135911523069109417904899629313

 

[alant]

The big beastie definitely is a fine vessel - but very different in topsides from the John Rock Tradewind 39 so I think another designer who got permison to use the Tradewind name. From memory I think she is actually a 45 footer - I know John Butler designed a Tradewind 45 which got quite close to production before he had to call it a "Fairwind 45" due to a haggle over the name but she was different again from any of these earlier models. So can the owner please step forward. Clearly designed as a cutter there are may touches carried over from the wee ones like Pleiades

-similar rubbing strake etc - although some Laurent Giles designs share these touches. She is reatively low in the topsides and a bit flatter rather than banana shaped -oops soory boats - I like bananas, no offence intended. I think with all that waterline length and a decent sail area she would be a fast and powerful performer.

Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

Is that you?

 

[Nikia]

Thought I'd throw in a pic of my much loved, and much admired Tradewind 39, which I sadly parted company with a couple of years ago. Sold her through John Butler, who even more sadly is no longer with us.
She sailed beautifully, never let me down, and was a joy to sail, including 3 S/H channel crossings.

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

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Thought I'd throw in a pic of my much loved, and much admired Tradewind 39, which I sadly parted company with a couple of years ago. Sold her through John Butler, who even more sadly is no longer with us.
She sailed beautifully, never let me down, and was a joy to sail, including 3 S/H channel crossings.

what a beauty.......
am I jealous of someone!
S.

 

[Pleiades]

Hi Nikia - what a delightful TW 39 - and there weren't that many of them , must have been a struggle to let her go. Very different to the bigger 45.
Hi Alant - yes that is Pleiades lowering the tone of a January Lulworth Cove.

Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5