Totally Gone off Diesel

I was going to mention the Cap Camarat WA (walk-around). The next one up in size (7.5) has a separate head.

They also do a Day Cruiser version (DC) if you want something a little more like your Fletcher.
 
Bigplumbs said:
Having bought a boat that had been serviced by the so called professionals I don't think you can trust sellers that say it was serviced by others either.
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Sometimes you cant even trust boatyards to do it properly.
have an obsession about Impellers. On previous boats I have had shredded impellers.
The harder they are to get at the more obsessive I am.
On a buying a recent boat (Yanmar Diesel) the engine had been serviced by Marine Engineers 60 hours previously and the Impeller was stated as being "Serviceable" Assuming that a Boatyard would not pass up the opportunity of selling a New Impeller and seeing that the pump was in an accessible location I assumed that the mechanic may have just held a mirror to the pump after taking the plate off.
To get the impeller out I had a Marine Engineer remove the pump.
The impeller's rubber vanes had badly perished.
Had I gone to sea I would have been a statistic.
 
Jim@sea said:
Sometimes you cant even trust boatyards to do it properly.
have an obsession about Impellers. On previous boats I have had shredded impellers.
The harder they are to get at the more obsessive I am.
On a buying a recent boat (Yanmar Diesel) the engine had been serviced by Marine Engineers 60 hours previously and the Impeller was stated as being "Serviceable" Assuming that a Boatyard would not pass up the opportunity of selling a New Impeller and seeing that the pump was in an accessible location I assumed that the mechanic may have just held a mirror to the pump after taking the plate off.
To get the impeller out I had a Marine Engineer remove the pump.
The impeller's rubber vanes had badly perished.
Had I gone to sea I would have been a statistic.
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Presumably you carry spare impellers? If so normally its just a few minutes to change so maybe not a statistic, just an inconvenience. Serviced 60 hours earlier could mean last week, month or Year, or even more!
 
longjohnsilver said:
Presumably you carry spare impellers? If so normally its just a few minutes to change so maybe not a statistic, just an inconvenience. Serviced 60 hours earlier could mean last week, month or Year, or even more!
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Cant replace at sea on most outboards or indeed on most mercruisers with legs
 
longjohnsilver said:
Presumably you carry spare impellers? If so normally its just a few minutes to change so maybe not a statistic, just an inconvenience. Serviced 60 hours earlier could mean last week, month or Year, or even more!
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I really wouldn't want to change an impeller on FP if out in a moderate swell, although I do carry the tools needed and a spare.

If you shut down both engines, you'll be rocking around all over the place.
Leave one engine running, and you risk being eaten by a belt.
A better idea would be continue to shelter on the remaining engine.
 
1) After reading various threads on here with what I consider horror stories about the cost of repairing a diesel (20K on one thread) and
2) All this hype in the media at the moment about Diesel fumes killing all of us and what this will mean for the good old diesel engine and fuel prices and tax
I simply don't know what to do.
Anyone else thinking the same
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Ask anyone on here with a boat presently powered by a diesel just how soon they will be dumping it and buying a petrol or outboard boat ?.
 
If all car drivers are encouraged to switch to petrol over the next couple of years, what happens to all the diesel they would have used? Does the price drop? or is the volume so small that it doesn't matter? does the price of petrol then rise once the Gov have got you trapped like a rat in a corner ?

Pete
 
I have both a diesel and a petrol boat.

The Diesel boat is preferred because:
1. Diesel is cheaper than Petrol here in Denmark
2. Not all Marinas or harbors have Petrol available .
3. the diesel engine believe it or not is cheaper and easier to service than my petrol inboard with sterndrive.
4. the diesel boat uses less fuel even though its 4 feet longer , 3 ft wider and 300 kg heavier.
5. no more fears of petrol leaks and fume explosions from a stray spark from an appliance in my engine room or my webasto heater.
6. longer range before need to refill tank.

The only disadvantages are:
1. my cruising speed has fallen from 21 kts (petrol) to 18 kt with the diesel.
2. max speed fallen from 27 kts (petrol) to 24.6 knts Diesel)
 
If you can do your own servicing then the cost of servicing either a diesel or a petrol is hardly worth worrying about and the servicing on the leg is the same regardless.
 
CX54WEK said:
If you can do your own servicing then the cost of servicing either a diesel or a petrol is hardly worth worrying about and the servicing on the leg is the same regardless.
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The trouble incurred if servicing the 3 bellows on a mercruiser sterndrive is better felt than described. :encouragement:
 
I have seen this boat... it is a pretty good condition as far as I could see and was thinking about it for me but I decided that I wanted something that was newer and had a more powerful engine. I had a Merry Fisher 625 a while back with a 115hp and that was about right. I would expect that a 115hp on the Antares 6.8 would be a little under-powered for my liking as it is a bit heavier. Having said that... I have seen a few with 115hp engines so they can't be that bad!

In the end I went for a Beneteau Antares 7 with a 150hp motor and I would expect that a 150 hp would be a better match for open sea use.
 
FlowerPower said:
I really wouldn't want to change an impeller on FP if out in a moderate swell, although I do carry the tools needed and a spare.

If you shut down both engines, you'll be rocking around all over the place.
Leave one engine running, and you risk being eaten by a belt.
A better idea would be continue to shelter on the remaining engine.
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I suppose it depends on an number of factors, such as the size of the e/r and accessibility of the pump. Having said all that, in 30 odd years and many thousands of hours of boating I've never had an impeller fail at sea. Maybe I've just been lucky. Now touching planks of wood......
And I missed the bit about it being a Yanmar and therefore most likely to be an outdrive. I guess that would be quite difficult!
 
Suspect most of us will have been in the position of finding the delights of our existing petrol boat on the wane and the attractions of a bit of space and comfort taking precedence over pace.
If at some point you do intend going farther afield for longer, you will get a diesel, going sideways with another petrol of any type merely delays the inevitable.
 
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