Tom, isitt grandma driving?

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Our illustrious leader writes all about long distance mile-munching in Dec mby editorial. Apparently he drove a motorbike from marseille to london once in 12 hours. Don't try this yerself, it says. Ooer!....or indeed, duh?

It's under 1100km from marseilles to calais, or about 680 miles, the legal limit about 85mph making it 8hours. Add 30 mins pumping fuel leaves a generous three and a half hours for reaching London via ferry and the final 75 miles to London. Not very illegal really? “Illegal” means reaching Calais in a shade over 7 hours from la napoule, an extra hundred miles along the motorway from Marseille, and getting fined by the plourds in Lyon en route – as per the very badly behaved Mrs tcm albeit egged on by the kids, I hear. Learner reports even higher velocities, but that’s probly in a French car, which is always faster, of course.

OK, next up he went from breakfast in Amsterdam to supper in Cowes, doing the 320m miles in a single day last summer, it says here. Wow, surely? But the straightline distance from Amsterdam (ijmuiden) to Dover is actually quoted at under 160nm in the almanac, and it's another 110 to Cowes from there, so perhaps the extra 50 blimmin miles was erm, GPS error?

At the reported 30 knots, 320 miles is under 11 hours of very gruelling um, sitting down. But anyway, breakfast in Amsterdam could happen at 5am giving an arrival time of 3pm local time in the afternoon. Was it a late lunch in Cowes, not supper? Or maybe they had a really really massive lardy breakfast, and didn’t set off till 11 in the morning. Even so, they’d still reach Cowes in the daylight at 9pm local, allowing for an hour driving 25 miles in the wrong direction towards Norway before turning the GPS the right way up.

The Nassau-Providenciales trip is 360 miles on the charts, although I expect this was in an American trawler thingy, possibly with Americans on board, so it may have felt a very long way indeed, plus GPS error again so maybe they did 500 miles or even more, praps…......but what’s that noise in the background? Oh dear, it’s the raggies- laughing rudely at the notion that this is a very long way. How very horrid of them!


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680 miles/1 day + motorbike = sore bum /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

You forgot to add in time stopped waiting for repair man to bring fuel!

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Pah, wimp!

He should try doing Nice to Calais in 11 hours, starting at 3am having just finished a week of gigging, in a van with 3 unconscious band members and one bad tempered security man plus PA, instruments and a weeks worth of rock band grade french porn hidden in the bass drum. . . . /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif


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Nah that\'s nothing

In the feature about long distance cruisers the MBY team not unreasonably place the mileage at 1600nm (from memory, don't have issue here) but I logged 4100nm when I did mine back in 1999. Gross navigation misconduct suspected, ot at the very least an unnerving instinct to head up every nook and cranny along the coast.

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I done Les Adrets in the mountains above La Napoule to London, 3 years running on a VFR 750. Quickest in 12.5 hours. stopping every 120 miles for fuel and an expresso and a pee ( its the vibration you know!)

Just done Southampton to London on the Fireblade, nice but freezin

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"Tom, isitt grandma driving"? ......when I first read this title I thought it was an extract from a TV sitcom/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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Remember around the 70's when the M4 was opened through to Wales, they used to do night runs from one end to the other, target was 1 hour.


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Bet he had piles the size of grapes /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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In the 1960's we used to do Sunday night beer fuelled time trials from the Four Oaks Public House near Sutton Coldfield to the Admiral Codrington somewhere down Chelsea way, I'm surprised any of us lived, but most of us did. Mostly MGBs vs Mini Coopers. At least the motorway bit had no speed restrictions, but the back doubles through West London after the Blue Star garage made Sweeney driving look positively wimpish.

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Good days were they, only a 30 mph speed limit to worry about, night rallies, toilet races, from the pub in Walsall to the public loo's in Kiddiminster or Bridgenorth, good incentive in that one, and there was petrol a £0.95 for 4 gallon.

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I finally got there, yes £4/6 a gallon! I remember the night rallies, toilet races I don't remember, (I shouldn't tell people about that if I were you it'll get you funny looks)!

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Didn't you ever come to the the "Night Drag Races" either down the Kingsbury Mad Mile when it first opened or the measured mile from Shustoke to Maxstoke, the bit past Maxstoke Hall. In fact the lines on the road down there seem to keep being "repainted" in, so perhaps they still happen??

A bit of hoistory for you, the Maxsoke road, was initially measured for the BSA/Triumph/Norton Test riders, out of Meriden of course, to verify the speedos. Cracking lads they were, used to have their very own trick exhausts that they strapped on to each bike before a test run, then disaaemble upon return to factory. Remember as a kid spending many happy days down there egging em on to give us a bit of a show, they never disappointed. Never saw a plod down there, though definitely a speed limited road!!

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Re: Slow down, young man

Crikey, Matt...bit savage today?

Was merely saying that mile-munching can be curiously satisfying. Trip from Cote d'Azur included Circuit Paul Ricard to Bandol, Bandol to Marsailles, and waiting/crossing time on slug-like car ferry. Not saying we did it in the fastest possible time (much easier to do it in a fast car than on a fast bike)...just cracking on and not hanging around.

Amsterdam to Cowes included starting 20 miles north of Amsterdam, stopping to offload two crew members at Amsterdam station, coast hugging Holland, Belgium and France as far as Calais, crossing the TSS to Dover, then hugging the coast to Cowes. And the Caribbean trip also included Havana-Bimini-Nassau.

Not claiming to have been further than anyone else, or faster...just saying that I get a curious satisfaction from putting in the miles and enjoy overnight passages in exotic places.

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There used to be a local straight around Sutton Coldfield way, had a island each end, lost one of our class at tech there, wet night, they hit island.

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I'm not sure I know which bit of road you mean, but in them thar days before the M1 the A5 was the nightmare road and it got at least two of my friends. Especially dangerous were our drives back from a day at Mallory Park, following which we were all determined to prove we were the next undiscovered race champ. Overtaking in gaps j u s t long enough, the risk worthwhile so long as you stole a march of the one behind you, though we never lost anyone on those occasions.

I don't have any children but this period of life between 17 and 23 must be parentally stressful. Maybe it's safer today, the cars certainly are and the risks better presented.

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That sounds distinctly like the Kingsbury Mad Mile, unfortunately lost a few good people down there, and then they built the Oil Terminal just up the road and its used mainly for Oil Tanker racing now, seeing as they are on a bonus. 24hrs a day they run so booting it down there especially dangerous now!

Interestingly before the M42 was built, this stretch would be on the way back from Mallory Park to Brum, Coventry etc.

But then again it could have been the Sutton Bypass (A38) total white elephant and now intersected by Islands for the M6Toll. Mind you the M6 Toll has just got to be the greatest place in the Country at the moment for Speed Trialling, everything is just going like hell down there currently!!

Also on that stretch of the A38 is the Bassets Pole Tuesday Meet where literally thousands of Bikers meet up, its manic, and of course deaths have resulted. That could of course be that there's a McDonalds there too though!

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