Todays Chandlers news and Somalia Pirates update

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This is rather a long post but I think the list of ships and captives following the piece on the Chandlers is interesting because it demonstrates the size and complexity of the Somalian problem......

Kidnapped British yacht couple plead for Christmas release by Murray Wardrop
Paul and Rachel Chandler, the British couple kidnapped by Somali pirates, have pleaded with the government to “get us out by Christmas, by whatever means”.
The pair, taken captive from their yacht more than seven weeks ago, accused British officials of refusing to help secure their release.
Three weeks ago, in a video appearance, they begged for the government to intervene, saying that they feared they might be killed within a matter of days.
However, in a telephone interview with the Sunday Times, Mr Chandler, 59, vented his despair at the lack of progress in negotiations, admitting: “We don’t think there’s much chance, seriously.”
Mr Chandler, a retired quantity surveyor, said: “We have no knowledge of what is happening in Britain except that we have been told that the government has refused to become involved.
“As far as we are concerned it is not a straightforward piracy business, it is a plain criminal kidnapping and ... should be approached with a rather different approach than the government uses.
“When you have a criminal gang carrying out a kidnapping, [the government] should not be averse to negotiating with that gang and following it up with whatever means. I don’t think the government should step back and say ‘this is nothing to do with us’.
“I would like to say to the British government: get us out by Christmas, by whatever means.”
Pirates seized the Chandlers on October 23 as the couple sailed from the Seychelles in their 38ft yacht Lynn Rival towards Tanzania. They were later taken on land in Somalia and are being constantly moved around, living in vehicles, as their captors make various hostage demands.
It has since emerged that a Royal Navy warship manned by at least 10 Royal Marines and equipped with a helicopter were just 50 yards away but took no action as the pirates seized the couple.
The Ministry of Defence admitted that Bob Ainsworth, the defence secretary, had authorised the Royal Marines to intervene but it said it was the ship’s commander who decided it was unsafe to attempt a rescue.
In November, the couple appeared in a video being held at gunpoint by their captors as they pleaded for the government to negotiate their release.
They warned that the kidnappers were “losing patience” and that they “won’t hesitate to take our lives”.
The Sunday Times obtained the most recent interview with the couple through, “Omar”, a local journalist who travelled to the area where they are being held and allowed them to speak to the newspaper via his mobile phone.
The Foreign Office refuses to negotiate with hostage takers. A spokesman said: “We call for the release of Paul and Rachel. Our efforts are ongoing to secure the safe release of the couple. We are in close touch with the family.”


STATUS OF ABDUCTED VESSELS AND CREWS IN SOMALIA

Summary: Today, 15th December 2009, at least 11 foreign vessels plus one barge are kept in Somalia against the will of their owners, while at least 272 seafarers suffer to be released.



MS INDIAN OCEAN EXPLORER and S/Y SERENITY - presumed sunken, wrecks not secured.

FV HILAL - wrecked near Eyl, but salvaged by owner.

BARGE NN - an unnamed barge is held at Kulule (near Bendar-Beyla) since mid march.
S/Y JUMLA or YUMLA ? - a mysterious yacht kept near Dinooda.

MT AGIA BARBARA: INDIAN AND SYRIAN CREW STILL WANTED FOR MURDER - vessel escaped from Somalia after the murder of a TFG policeman and the attempted murder of another to the UAE - unhindered by international naval forces.
Cases in negotiations:

FV WIN FAR 161 - The Taiwanese fishing vessel was seized April 6, 2009 near the Seychelles. Said to have been observed earlier to fish illegally in Somali waters. It had after the sea-jacking been involved in the attack on MV ALABAMA. The crew of 30 (17 Filipinos, six Indonesians, five Chinese and two Taiwanese) is still together and on board, but in awful condition.

MV KOTA WAJAR: Seized on Oct. 15, 2009. The 24,637-tonne container ship, seized 300 nautical miles north of Seychelles, was heading for the Kenyan port of Mombasa from Singapore. It has a multinational 21 men crew on board, of which two are Singaporean 5 Sri Lankan and 4 Indian. It was used to lift a sea-jacked British couple, John and Rachel Chandler from their 38-ft yacht S/Y LYNN RIVAL, seized October,22 2009 en route to Tanzania and later recovered by the UK naval vessel Waveknight, which brought the yacht back to England. The boxship is held around 30nm south of Hobyo and negotiations continue.

MV DE XIN HAI: Seized on Oct. 19, 2009. The 76,000 tonne Chinese bulk carrier with 25 Chinese sailors was en route from South Africa to carries about 76,000 tonnes of coal and there were 25 Chinese crew aboard when it was hijacked.

MV AL KHALIQ: Seized on Oct. 22, 2009. The Panamanian-flagged 22,000 dwt handymax bulker MV AL KHALIQ was abducted around180 miles west of the Seychelles. The crew consists of 24 Indian sailors and two Burmese nationals. Negotiations have started.

FV THAI UNION 3: Seized on Oct. 29, 2009. Pirates on two skiffs boarded the tuna fishing boat with a crew of 27 with 23 Russians, two Filipinos and two nationals from Ghana about 200 nautical miles north of the Seychelles and 650 miles off the Somali coast. During the attack the Russian captain was shot in the left elbow.

FV SHAXAR: , was impounded by a Somali militia overnight on Friday October 30, 2009 near Ras Hafun after a gun battle, in which at least one Somali was killed and another one wounded. Maybe this is the vessel which the Dutch navy nabbed yesterday afternoon - we are awaiting confirmation.

MV DELVINA: Seized on Nov. 5, 2009. The 53,629 dwt bulk carrier had 21 men crew consists of 7 Ukrainian officers and 14 Filipino sailors. The vessel was seized 250 nautical miles northwest of Madagascar and is laden with wheat. Negotiations have started.

MV FILITSA: Seized on Nov. 10, 2009. The 1996-built, 23,709 dwt cargo-ship has a crew of 22, including three Greek officers and 19 Filipinos. Held near Harardheere.

MV THERESA VIII: Seized on Nov. 16, 2009. The chemical tanker was hijacked in the southern Somali Basin, north-west of the Seychelles. The 22,294 dwt tanker has a crew of now only 28 North Koreans, since the captain of the tanker died from gunshot wounds sustained during the hijack.

VLCC MARAN CENTAURUS: Seized Nov 29, 2009. The tanker was sailing from Kuwait to the Gulf of Mexico when it was seized north-east of the Seychelles about 800 miles (1,300 km) off the coast of Somalia.. The dwt 300,294 tonnes tanker has a crew of 28 sailors with nine Greeks, two Ukrainians, one Romanian and 16 Filipinos on board.

FV SHAZAIB Seized Dec. 6, 2009: Pirates seized the Pakistani-flagged fishing vessel 320 miles east of Socotra, with a crew of 29 on board, thought to be in majority of Pakistani nationality.

MSV LAXMI SAGAR: Seized Dec. 6, 2009. The Indian-flagged cargo-dhow was briefly used as mother-ship.

Answers on how to resolve this problem on a postcard!!!!!

Michael
 
Gives the lie to the "poor fishermen protecting own waters" and the "hostages don't get killed" school !

Britain can illegally invade Iraq,by Bliar's own admission ,but can't take action against thugs and gangsters!

WONDERFUL!
 
Would someone please explain just who the Foreign Office is so afraid of offending that they 'Ineffectuate'' in all their dealings in these waters?

Its not a joke, it's embarrassing. And must be hell for anyone unfortunate enough to bebe caught in the middle.

FFS a bunch of South American scrapmetal opportunists brought forth the wrath of Maggie and a naval flotilla..25 years later, what do we have?.. Tony Bliar still looking for his invisible weapons of mass pursuasion, and GB away with the fairies..

Those poor Chandlers.
 
I can't see a single report of hostages being killed in that lot. One seaman killed in the take-over, one captain wounded, two policemen killed by escaping crewmembers.

So they kill a seaman and maim a captain----no big deal,plenty more where they came from. They should have just handed over the ship straightaway,it was their own fault for being there! As to the reference to crewmen killing two policemen,it doesn't say which crew, whose policemen and how they came into conflict. That I found puzzling.


And what about the captain who died of gunshot wounds while being held
 
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So they kill a seaman and maim a captain----no big deal,plenty more where they came from. They should have just handed over the ship straightaway,it was their own fault for being there! As to the reference to crewmen killing two policemen,it doesn't say which crew, whose policemen and how they came into conflict. That I found puzzling.


And what about the captain who died of gunshot wounds while being held

I edited the report because it was so long... Was not sure how interested folks were - I get these reports once or twice a week depending on the activity! If anybody wants it then let me know and I will find a way publishing them in full.
What interests me is the size of the problem and that short of 'taking over' Somalia which nobody in their right mind would try to do there appears to be no very easy solution.

regards

Michael
 
there appears to be no very easy solution.

Enforce existing laws about paying money to Terrorists? If can't stretch those existing laws bring in some new ones that outlaw Insurers or Commercial Companies ransoming their vessels..........on pain of heavyweight fines and jail time (the big cash ultimately comes from reputable business with things to lose)............remove the cash prize and the business will stop soon enough. Any vessels seized gets sunk or heavily damaged / disabled by the Navies (blow the rudders and props off?). Any onboard hostage crews get to take their chances from collateral damage.

Probably not done already for commercial reasons as short term cheaper for the insurors to ransom a vessel than pay out, even though long term more expensive for the insurers - don't assume that insurance companies always look at the big picture :rolleyes:

The existing hostage crews? An insurance funded UN backed "Gooley Chit" - say USD5k each, payable upon safe release, no questions asked........say, for the next 6 months only.
 
Enforce existing laws about paying money to Terrorists? If can't stretch those existing laws bring in some new ones that outlaw Insurers or Commercial Companies ransoming their vessels..........on pain of heavyweight fines and jail time (the big cash ultimately comes from reputable business with things to lose)............remove the cash prize and the business will stop soon enough. Any vessels seized gets sunk or heavily damaged / disabled by the Navies (blow the rudders and props off?). Any onboard hostage crews get to take their chances from collateral damage.

Probably not done already for commercial reasons as short term cheaper for the insurors to ransom a vessel than pay out, even though long term more expensive for the insurers - don't assume that insurance companies always look at the big picture :rolleyes:

The existing hostage crews? An insurance funded UN backed "Gooley Chit" - say USD5k each, payable upon safe release, no questions asked........say, for the next 6 months only.

That would get my vote! But then I'd want the "Mr.Bigs"" hunted down and killed.
 
Rescue mission?

OK now we know the minister authorised action to rescue the Chandlers but the Navy captain thought it too risky.
Consider the possible consequences of taking action.
a. Success - minister looks OK, Navy captain gets minor pat on back.
b. Not complete success. One of the Chandlers killed and/or one of the Naval rescue party.
Recriminations all round. Captain probably never has another ship; minister sinks without trace; The press makes hay criticising everyone.
It's not a nice decision to have to make and the Captain, on the spot, was perhaps the one best qualified to make that decision.
 
OK now we know the minister authorised action to rescue the Chandlers but the Navy captain thought it too risky.

I wouldn't take that at face value - especially as such a reasonable sounding scenario took a good while to surface. I suspect the delay in revealing this not so much for "operational security reasons" :rolleyes: but more to see what else would leak out and then to fit something "good" around the publically available story.

My bet is that the statement is technically correct, but only insofar as the Minister would have given a non-specific ok for action if appropriate / with caveats (whether in this specific case or as a standing instruction) - but carefully phrased to give plenty of Ministerial wiggle room if the operation goes t#ts up in the court of public opinion :rolleyes:.........with buck therefore firmly passed back to Navy with the message "you're on your own". And because few of rank in the modern Navy capable / willing to take action / think on their own the Navy priority therefore became neutralising the "buck passing scenario", not addressing the "Pirates capturing British hostages scenario".

And they want how much for Carriers? :eek: Dream on :rolleyes:
 
Clearly bad things. But they don't kill hostages once they have them.

Difficult to see how a major physical response will change things much.

I suspect that many of us have some sympathy with the Somalians .

You have to wonder why America and the West are so disliked by the Third World countries and other small nations. Is it because they see our lifestyle and the abundance and fear that they will never achieve it for themselves ?

The West did share a large part of the abundance but let it get into the hands of the yobos who then went on ego trips. Many are still left saddled with those kinds of debts with nothing to show for it.

It would seem that the best we can do is try and contain it as much as possible and try and learn from the errors made in the past.
 
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