To wee or not to wee !!!!

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The boat I want to get is a Bowrider of some description. Kept in Spain. Not too keen on the Centre Console set up, I prefer the Helm to the Side.But I want a WC on it.Im struggling to find a boat less than 7 metres that comes with one. Any ideas folks. Thankyou.BTW I do not want a Day Cruiser. Bowrider only
 
Why a bow rider ?
Some ribs have a toilet under the console and better buoyancy .
If it’s a small boat you can,t just load it up with family + friends ......allow them to wallow in the front because it changes the weight distribution negatively and it won,t plane unless they move behind you the driver .
Then apart from no bog , nobody can ride at the front you have this major design flaw.

Best to see for yourself.

 
Portofino said:
Why a bow rider ?
Some ribs have a toilet under the console and better buoyancy .
If it’s a small boat you can,t just load it up with family + friends ......allow them to wallow in the front because it changes the weight distribution negatively and it won,t plane unless they move behind you the driver .
Then apart from no bog , nobody can ride at the front you have this major design flaw.

Best to see for yourself.

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So what happens there then, there was only two people on the boat?
 
MartynG said:
I expect 7m may be the minimum size that can accommodate a toilet.. and human being sitting on the toilet
2020 Bayliner VR6 Bowrider Abersoch, Gwynedd, United Kingdom - Abersoch Land & Sea The Powerboat Specialists


Or you could get one of these ?
https://www.blacks.co.uk/equipment/072076-outwell-collapsible-bucket-and-lid-assorted.html
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haha! Brilliant, where there is a will there's a way Martyn...Personally I like the look of the Bayliners, but everyone is saying that they are made for lakes and not sea...so its put me off them a bit, I don't want to be slamming everywhere....I want to feel safe in the boat.
 
Nosealegsyet said:
haha! Brilliant, where there is a will there's a way Martyn...Personally I like the look of the Bayliners, but everyone is saying that they are made for lakes and not sea...so its put me off them a bit, I don't want to be slamming everywhere....I want to feel safe in the boat.
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There's plenty of bayliners (and all the other American bow riders) all over the med, they all do fine in the chop. I'm sure you can get much more capable boats, but the bayliners aren't bad by any stretch. They're popular for a reason.
 
Portofino said:
because it changes the weight distribution negatively
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I have a small centre consol bow rider. The boat planes at lower speed with people sat in the bow , moves at displacement speed faster but the catch is whoever is in the front besides getting beaten to death also gets soaked!
No chance of a toilet in mine.
 
Nosealegsyet said:
So what happens there then, there was only two people on the boat?
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I think this is an american tournament boat that is designed for fancy waterski-ing on lakes.
I have heard tells from owners of them taking water over the front as there is not much freeboard.
i am quite familiar with driving many bow riders and centre consoles and. have never taken water over the bow.
The bowrider gives you just so much more seating and lounging areas . You will be fine with one in the Mar Menor.
Just keep away from the idiots planing near you in large cruisers.
Try to find a Regal 2220 Fastrac.
It has a small toilet compartment. A double rear sunbed good floor space. Good swim platform. Lots of cockpit seating loads of storage large bow seating area converting to double/treble sun bed bimini top for shade.
Lots of freeboard very dry boat in choppy water and the highly regarded stepped hull which is more fuel efficient and faster than all of its similar sized competitors.
Buy one if you are lucky enough to find one.
You will be delighted.
 
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As with every boat, it comes down to preparation and common sense. As I mentioned before, I have a 28ft bowrider in the Med. I started with a 22ft when I moved over from sailing. Never ever did I get water over the bow. I do check the weather forecast, waves etc before going out, but have been in some decent chop without any problems. As I said, it comes down to common sense and experience. If the waves kick up, there are ways to tackle them. But yes, ultimately a bow rider has its limitations just like any other boat. Use it sensibly and you'll have tons of fun. Many RIBS will deal better with chop, just like a larger vessel will deal with it better than a smaller one.
 
Back on topic, I dont think you will find many bow riders with a suitable toilet and as crude as it sounds this is simply down to privacy especially with women. I think by far the majority will opt to go for a swim rather than sit in full view, knees round ears, trying to hunker down and take a leak so even if you had one it would be kind of pointless. I dont know about you guys but after a short blatt out for some decency and privacy, well that's what swim platforms are for.

After that if you still desire a toilet then the trusty old Portapotty would be my go to rather than compromise on the vessel chosen.
 
Portofino said:
Why a bow rider ?
Some ribs have a toilet under the console and better buoyancy .
If it’s a small boat you can,t just load it up with family + friends ......allow them to wallow in the front because it changes the weight distribution negatively and it won,t plane unless they move behind you the driver .
Then apart from no bog , nobody can ride at the front you have this major design flaw.

Best to see for yourself.

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Thats awful
Wouldn't something like an Axopar 24 be much better - all round - and with a toilet option (all be it in the open though).
 
julians said:
There's plenty of bayliners (and all the other American bow riders) all over the med, they all do fine in the chop. I'm sure you can get much more capable boats, but the bayliners aren't bad by any stretch. They're popular for a reason.
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I like the look of the bayliners more than any other boat, and you do get a lot more for your money I think
 
BruceK said:
Back on topic, I dont think you will find many bow riders with a suitable toilet and as crude as it sounds this is simply down to privacy especially with women. I think by far the majority will opt to go for a swim rather than sit in full view, knees round ears, trying to hunker down and take a leak so even if you had one it would be kind of pointless. I dont know about you guys but after a short blatt out for some decency and privacy, well that's what swim platforms are for.

After that if you still desire a toilet then the trusty old Portapotty would be my go to rather than compromise on the vessel chosen.
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So the porta potty, is it a glorified bucket to do your business ?
 
Coustea1 said:
As with every boat, it comes down to preparation and common sense. As I mentioned before, I have a 28ft bowrider in the Med. I started with a 22ft when I moved over from sailing. Never ever did I get water over the bow. I do check the weather forecast, waves etc before going out, but have been in some decent chop without any problems. As I said, it comes down to common sense and experience. If the waves kick up, there are ways to tackle them. But yes, ultimately a bow rider has its limitations just like any other boat. Use it sensibly and you'll have tons of fun. Many RIBS will deal better with chop, just like a larger vessel will deal with it better than a smaller one.
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I would only be going out in safe conditions anyway....
 
BruceK said:
Back on topic, I dont think you will find many bow riders with a suitable toilet and as crude as it sounds this is simply down to privacy especially with women. I think by far the majority will opt to go for a swim rather than sit in full view, knees round ears, trying to hunker down and take a leak so even if you had one it would be kind of pointless. I dont know about you guys but after a short blatt out for some decency and privacy, well that's what swim platforms are for.

After that if you still desire a toilet then the trusty old Portapotty would be my go to rather than compromise on the vessel chosen.
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yep - we just used to go for a swim on my old 20 footer, still do the same on the current boat even though it has a proper loo with a holding tank, its just easier that way.
 
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