To settle an argument (discussion)

yes I have ST winches, No I don't

  • Yes I have self tailing winches

    Votes: 155 59.8%

  • No, my winches are not selftailers

    Votes: 104 40.2%
  • Total voters
    259
  • Poll closed .
Dilemma! YES I have selftailers but NO as they are Gibb 7sta & I have never had the red plastic guides for them to work. would dearly love dimensioned sketch to manufacture replacements so as to assess if any benefits to their usefulness or would it not be worth the effort ?
 
When I bought my Moody 33 a few years ago it had very knackered lewmar non-st's but had the forethought to remove the overlarge Andersen 40 st's from my previous boat before selling. They are superb, probably one size too large for the boat but nice & easy to use, especially as I often singlehand. Wouldn't be without them. Have a pair of non st Andersen halliard winches on the mast but the mainhalliard is due to be replaced this spring with a ST Andersen picked up at a bargain price at a local boat jumble. The genoa halliard I'll leave as it is as it's only used once a year when raising the genoa.
The halliard st winch will be safer to use when reefing at the mast as you effectively only need one hand to winch and the other to hold on in rough conditions.
 
Andersen self-tailers for the jib. Fine for pulling in, horrible for easing out; I'd replace them with non-ST if I (a) had the money and (b) had a logical place to put cleats.
 
JumbleDuck said:
Andersen self-tailers for the jib. Fine for pulling in, horrible for easing out; I'd replace them with non-ST if I (a) had the money
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I'd have thought that if you offered a swap for same-sized non-STs quite a few people here would be delighted to take you up on it! No cost at all except for postage and a little Sikaflex.

I did something similar swapping my big Yeoman for a smaller one when the new boat turned out to have a smaller chart table. Someone was very happy to upgrade his to the bigger version at no cost.

Pete
 
JumbleDuck said:
Andersen self-tailers for the jib. Fine for pulling in, horrible for easing out; I'd replace them with non-ST if I (a) had the money and (b) had a logical place to put cleats.
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Never had a problem easing sheets ST40's, Palm/Hold tension of the four turns on the winch with one hand, release sheet from gripper with the other and ease tension to desired setting. hold tension on drum with hand palm, replace sheet in gripper and set.

I always make a loop with the tail end, passed under the tensioned sheet and up over the winch and take up the slack for security, stops the possibility of the sheet falling out of the gripper.
 
I changed my main winches for STs to help when short-handed. I find them a mixed blessing - they need an extra turn before they grip enough for the gripping jaws to hold, so I have to get the turns on with more slack than I would like, meaning longer grinding in. The old winches had a well placed half horn cleat beside them so were quick to use and never let go. But with no-one to tail, a non-ST winch makes taking a slow process anyway - my arms are too short to winch a significant amount each time.

Rob.
 
xeitosaphil said:
Never had a problem easing sheets ST40's, Palm/Hold tension of the four turns on the winch with one hand, release sheet from gripper with the other and ease tension to desired setting. hold tension on drum with hand palm, replace sheet in gripper and set.
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That's the problem. I miss being able to ease sheets single handed ... particularly this summer when a wrist injury meant I was sailing literally singlehanded for much of the time.
 
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