FullCircle
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Counting all lines and warps, halyards, sheets, spares and anchor warp, in fact everything 8mm and over, how much line have I got?
Warning, the answer is astonishing!
Warning, the answer is astonishing!
Time for a game - How much rope on my ordinary 35 ft boat?
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sailorman
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300m
Danny Jo
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650 m
FullCircle
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I warned you the answer is astonishing, not even close.
FullCircle
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Nearer, but no cigar!
BlueSkyNick
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a whole kilometre?
ColinHuggins
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Re: Rope on my ordinary 30 ft cruiser-racer . .
. . was about 500 metres. I used to put it all in the washing machine every winter (yeah, yeah and forget about it until the Spring.)
And why is it time for a game anyway?
. . was about 500 metres. I used to put it all in the washing machine every winter (yeah, yeah and forget about it until the Spring.)
And why is it time for a game anyway?
stevebrassett
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Re: Rope on my ordinary 30 ft cruiser-racer . .
Main halyard, say 30m
Topping lift 30m
Genoa halyard 30m
Spinnaker halyard 30m
Genoa sheets 30m
Spinnaker sheets 30m
Mainsheet 20m
Main anchor 100m
Kedge anchor 50m
Short warps 15m * 2
Medium warps 30m *2
Long warps 50m * 2
540 so far....
Kicker - 20m
Reefing lines 20m * 3
Storm jig halyard 30m
Storm jib sheets 30m
Tow line 100m
Sea parachute line 300m
Spare warps another 200m
1280m in total
How am I doing?
(editted 'cos I can't spell spinnaker the same way twice)
Main halyard, say 30m
Topping lift 30m
Genoa halyard 30m
Spinnaker halyard 30m
Genoa sheets 30m
Spinnaker sheets 30m
Mainsheet 20m
Main anchor 100m
Kedge anchor 50m
Short warps 15m * 2
Medium warps 30m *2
Long warps 50m * 2
540 so far....
Kicker - 20m
Reefing lines 20m * 3
Storm jig halyard 30m
Storm jib sheets 30m
Tow line 100m
Sea parachute line 300m
Spare warps another 200m
1280m in total
How am I doing?
(editted 'cos I can't spell spinnaker the same way twice)
Pye_End
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Re: Rope on my ordinary 30 ft cruiser-racer . .
30m for topping lift etc. - seems a lot for a 34.
20m for a kicker?
Genoa sheets 30m?
Warps - gosh...
etc.
Is this for a bigger boat?
30m for topping lift etc. - seems a lot for a 34.
20m for a kicker?
Genoa sheets 30m?
Warps - gosh...
etc.
Is this for a bigger boat?
jonathankent
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Re: Rope on my ordinary 30 ft cruiser-racer . .
30m for topping lift wouldn't seem to be too much... mine is 16m for a 19' boat.
20m for kicker maybe a bit on the high side
30m for genoa sheets, if thats both sides, then not too much either
I would guess at 800m total
30m for topping lift wouldn't seem to be too much... mine is 16m for a 19' boat.
20m for kicker maybe a bit on the high side
30m for genoa sheets, if thats both sides, then not too much either
I would guess at 800m total
stevebrassett
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Re: Rope on my ordinary 30 ft cruiser-racer . .
Nope, pure guesses. A 35 ft boat will have a mast that's around 40 feet tall, maybe a few feet more. That's around 12 metres. A topping lift will be double that, plus a few metres to allow for running back to the cockpit, plus rounding up.
Same with the kicker. A racer could easily have a 6-1 purchase. So a 1.5 metre kicker would have 9 metres of line just for the kicker, plus running back to the cockpit, plus a bit to hang onto, plus rounding up.
Plus, the OP implied there was a lot of rope, so I overestimated.
Nope, pure guesses. A 35 ft boat will have a mast that's around 40 feet tall, maybe a few feet more. That's around 12 metres. A topping lift will be double that, plus a few metres to allow for running back to the cockpit, plus rounding up.
Same with the kicker. A racer could easily have a 6-1 purchase. So a 1.5 metre kicker would have 9 metres of line just for the kicker, plus running back to the cockpit, plus a bit to hang onto, plus rounding up.
Plus, the OP implied there was a lot of rope, so I overestimated.
stevebrassett
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Re: Rope on my ordinary 30 ft cruiser-racer . .
And, yes, all the sheets (except main) were for both sides.
And, yes, all the sheets (except main) were for both sides.
Sixpence
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Jim
Is this fair , you've got more than enough to take care of almost anything , and far more than I've seen on other boats around here , but she's a lovely boat and does deserve the best ( clue to others so there ) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Is this fair , you've got more than enough to take care of almost anything , and far more than I've seen on other boats around here , but she's a lovely boat and does deserve the best ( clue to others so there ) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
FullCircle
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Oooh, a fair few arithmeticians out there on a Sunday night.
I calculated the following:
Main Halyard 30m
Genoa Halyard 32m
Genoa 2 32m
Spinnaker Halyard 34m
Spin 2 34m
Storm Jib Halyard 20m
Uphaul 22m
Downhaul 12m
Chute Tack 17m
Furling line 17m
Topping Lift 30m
Outhaul 10m
Reef 1 26m
Reef 2 33m
Reef 3 36m
Kicker 18m
Mainsheet traveller 12m
Genoa Sheet 20m
Genoa Sheet 20m
Spin Sheet 25m
Spin Sheet 25m
Storm Jib Sheet 15m
Storm Jib Sheet 15m
Anchor Warp total 70m
Fore and aft lines 32m
Springs 30m
Spare mooring lines 30m
Long warp 105m
Long Warp 105m
Spare warps in locker 45m
which makes a total of 952m.
Remember this is only 8mm and over, and does not include flag halyards etc.
I must say that I was amazed at how much money and weight is draped over the boat in lines.
All this came about because of
a) the washing machine annual clank cycle
b) the mousing line 3mm para cord being 30p a metre in the swindlery.
I bought a 220m drum of the stuff for under 20 quid off ebay last night, on the basis I totted it up in the swindlery to about 160m minimum, which was about 50 quid, and I was wrong.
So next weekends job is to recover all the lines I haven't washed and inspected yet.
It is also adding judicial evidence to Lynn's assertion that I must be rope mad, as I always ferret in the clearance bins for some more of the stuff, and she has to drag me away.
I would like to add to this in 2007 with towable Genoa cars. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I calculated the following:
Main Halyard 30m
Genoa Halyard 32m
Genoa 2 32m
Spinnaker Halyard 34m
Spin 2 34m
Storm Jib Halyard 20m
Uphaul 22m
Downhaul 12m
Chute Tack 17m
Furling line 17m
Topping Lift 30m
Outhaul 10m
Reef 1 26m
Reef 2 33m
Reef 3 36m
Kicker 18m
Mainsheet traveller 12m
Genoa Sheet 20m
Genoa Sheet 20m
Spin Sheet 25m
Spin Sheet 25m
Storm Jib Sheet 15m
Storm Jib Sheet 15m
Anchor Warp total 70m
Fore and aft lines 32m
Springs 30m
Spare mooring lines 30m
Long warp 105m
Long Warp 105m
Spare warps in locker 45m
which makes a total of 952m.
Remember this is only 8mm and over, and does not include flag halyards etc.
I must say that I was amazed at how much money and weight is draped over the boat in lines.
All this came about because of
a) the washing machine annual clank cycle
b) the mousing line 3mm para cord being 30p a metre in the swindlery.
I bought a 220m drum of the stuff for under 20 quid off ebay last night, on the basis I totted it up in the swindlery to about 160m minimum, which was about 50 quid, and I was wrong.
So next weekends job is to recover all the lines I haven't washed and inspected yet.
It is also adding judicial evidence to Lynn's assertion that I must be rope mad, as I always ferret in the clearance bins for some more of the stuff, and she has to drag me away.
I would like to add to this in 2007 with towable Genoa cars. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Pye_End
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Re: Rope on my ordinary 30 ft cruiser-racer . .
Gosh.
My 8m -
Topping lift = 18m
Halyards presumably the same as they go to the same place.
Kicker - be surprised if it is 5m
Genoa sheets - can't see them being much longer than the hull.
Mooring warps - short warps shorter than wrapping round prop if dangling from bow cleat say 7m each * 4 plus 3 longer ones.
All mast lines on mine are base of the mast rather than cockpit. Maybe this makes a big difference.
Frightening at the near 1km for a 34 - I'll have to add mine up now and see how it compares.
Gosh.
My 8m -
Topping lift = 18m
Halyards presumably the same as they go to the same place.
Kicker - be surprised if it is 5m
Genoa sheets - can't see them being much longer than the hull.
Mooring warps - short warps shorter than wrapping round prop if dangling from bow cleat say 7m each * 4 plus 3 longer ones.
All mast lines on mine are base of the mast rather than cockpit. Maybe this makes a big difference.
Frightening at the near 1km for a 34 - I'll have to add mine up now and see how it compares.
Becky
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Can quite believe it.
My HWMBO has to be dragged kicking and screaming past the boxes of cheap rope hanks in Marine Superstore, as we are running out of places to put them.
On top of which we bought a 90 m coil of very strong thick nylon mooring rope from Aladdins Cave for £100. Just because it was there. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
My HWMBO has to be dragged kicking and screaming past the boxes of cheap rope hanks in Marine Superstore, as we are running out of places to put them.
On top of which we bought a 90 m coil of very strong thick nylon mooring rope from Aladdins Cave for £100. Just because it was there. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
mikejames
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Re: Rope on my ordinary 30 ft cruiser-racer . .
Worse is when you add up how much that cost you to buy it ....
I seem to remember paying about £200 for a single spectra main halyard , £100 for a jib halyard and there's about £75 of spectra mainsheet and jibsheets bought as an offcut .
Thats on a GK24
Worse is when you add up how much that cost you to buy it ....
I seem to remember paying about £200 for a single spectra main halyard , £100 for a jib halyard and there's about £75 of spectra mainsheet and jibsheets bought as an offcut .
Thats on a GK24
sailorman
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Re: Rope on my ordinary 30 ft cruiser-racer . .
try ebay got 55m x 14 m/m for £90 delivered /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
didnt need 14 m/m for genny halliard but hey feel the quality /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
try ebay got 55m x 14 m/m for £90 delivered /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
didnt need 14 m/m for genny halliard but hey feel the quality /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Allan
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Re: Rope on my ordinary 30 ft cruiser-racer . .
Do we really need to pay this much for rope? Has anyone had a cheap sheet or halyard break? What are the cheapest ropes we can use? It seems to me that, for instance, I put a lot of strain on my halyards. I never really grunt the jib sheet winch.
Allan
Do we really need to pay this much for rope? Has anyone had a cheap sheet or halyard break? What are the cheapest ropes we can use? It seems to me that, for instance, I put a lot of strain on my halyards. I never really grunt the jib sheet winch.
Allan
Danny Jo
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Two 105 m warps? Humph, they don't count, and nor does the 45 m spare warp and 30 m spare mooring lines. You're allowed 50 m for the anchor, which makes a total of 649 - just one metre short of my estimate. Mine's a Guinness if you please.