Tiller Repairs

Fire99

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Evening gang,

As I gradually get started on the jobs I inherited with my boat, i'm working on the Tiller.

It's a transom mounted Rudder and the Tiller appears to be 5 or so curved lenghts of hardwood.
The top 'layer' has come away from the others and when I cleaned it up there didn't seem to be any glue residue?
How do you normally attach the lengths together? Glue,Epoxy,Gravity :) ?
 
Fire99 said:
Evening gang,

As I gradually get started on the jobs I inherited with my boat, i'm working on the Tiller.

It's a transom mounted Rudder and the Tiller appears to be 5 or so curved lenghts of hardwood.
The top 'layer' has come away from the others and when I cleaned it up there didn't seem to be any glue residue?
How do you normally attach the lengths together? Glue,Epoxy,Gravity :) ?
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polyurethane ( expanding air cured ) might do the trick. most builders merchants will stock in ( Joiners Mate http://www.geocel.co.uk/product.aspx?id=117&pr=gmat ).
its **** stuff to handle use protective latex gloves.
clean joint apply adhesive & tape around tightly to hold together for 24 hrs
 
sailorman said:
polyurethane ( expanding air cured ) might do the trick. most builders merchants will stock in ( Joiners Mate http://www.geocel.co.uk/product.aspx?id=117&pr=gmat ).
its **** stuff to handle use protective latex gloves.
clean joint apply adhesive & tape around tightly to hold together for 24 hrs
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Wonderful Wonderful. Thanks.

One other quick question. The rest of the rudder apears to be coated in a plastic-esque substance. I'm guessing it's some form of epoxy type stuff. What is the best stuff to use to repair the 'dings' in it?
 
The red is, or should, be antifouling. This will be spent so no great loss. Scrape it off and see what's underneath. You can either fill, prime and re-antifoul or else strip the whole item and epoxy sheath it. Either will work fine and both will require antifouling beneath the waterline.

Rob.
 
rob2 said:
The red is, or should, be antifouling. This will be spent so no great loss. Scrape it off and see what's underneath. You can either fill, prime and re-antifoul or else strip the whole item and epoxy sheath it. Either will work fine and both will require antifouling beneath the waterline.

Rob.
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Cheers Rob,

The Red is/was antifouling but there is a slightly duller hard plastic-like coating underneath it which is also a reddy colour. (It's also red under the white painted area)

What's the best product for epoxy coating?
 
Fire99 said:
....... there is a slightly duller hard plastic-like coating underneath it which is also a reddy colour
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That sounds like a filler of epoxy and microballoons (is it Sp or west that do the red low density filler?).

As for best epoxy coating, is it going on untreated wood or over existing coatings?
 
aslabend said:
That sounds like a filler of epoxy and microballoons (is it Sp or west that do the red low density filler?).

As for best epoxy coating, is it going on untreated wood or over existing coatings?
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Since it's to a certain degree a 'patch up' job, it will be going over existing coatings.
 
Just make sure the rest of your laminated tiller is not coming apart too - mine snapped! As your rudder is transon hung, I presume the tiller is just a striaght length - or maybe with some minimal curve achieved at laminating stage. I replaced mine with a solid mahogany piece of timber. And for £3 a pickaxe handle makes a great spare!
 
Burnham Bob said:
Just make sure the rest of your laminated tiller is not coming apart too - mine snapped! As your rudder is transon hung, I presume the tiller is just a striaght length - or maybe with some minimal curve achieved at laminating stage. I replaced mine with a solid mahogany piece of timber. And for £3 a pickaxe handle makes a great spare!
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The Tiller is rather smashing. 5 or so lengths of curved hardwood bonded together. Looks quite nice once tidied up and a few coats of varnish. Sorry if i'm confusing folk, the Rudder is what's coated with a plasticy epoxy-alike coating. The tiller is bare varnished hardwood.
 
If the tiller is solid hardwood , then sand it down and give it a few coats of single pack polyurethane varnish; if the tiller is laminated, you can still use the polyurethane varnish to stick the laminates together and use a clamp overnight.
 
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