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sailorman said:
I have sailed the area for a few years & have only known it as the Butley River, it was a true river before the south west onset of the shingle bank enclosed the river
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Ah, but before that wasn't it a tributary of the proto-Thames, like most of the Suffolk Rivers? (IIRC Thames came out into what is now the North Sea, somewhere around Suffoik/Norfolk, north of the landbridge to the main continent.)
 
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well my East Coast Rivers (one of them anyway) by J H C dated 1956, costing 9s 6d at the time, says -

The Butley River - This river or large creek leaves .............

so anyways this was way before UKIP back to good Old English Money times, before monetry de valuation, so must be right!? :D

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anyways, I understood that a River is fed from / by a spring or other water supply so that a regular water supply is comming 'down' the River. Hence up or down river!

a creek is both filled and emptied, from the same end / place, by / from a River or Sea daily.

if so! does the Butley have a water 'feed' into it??
 
Been the Butley River ever since I can remember, and that's a long time...
Certainly from my dad Jack Coote's 1st Edition of East Coast Rivers in 1956 to the 19th and most recent ECR Cruising Companion, edited by me and published by Wiley Nautical in 2008. BTW some of you could usefully update your editions of ECR...

Ralph Brinkley would know more but unless any of you know a medium, it might be tricky getting in touch with him as he died about three or four years ago.

There is a very interesting chapter on The Butley River in W.G. Arnott's book Alde Estuary (published in 1973 and now sadly out of print). He explains that the Butley originally was a wide estuary giving directly onto the sea with ships from foreign parts coming and going. It was possible to sail into the sheltered upper reaches or lie in the Tang river which rose in the wastes of Tangham Forest.
As the author says, so greatly has all this changed that it is difficult to imagine what this part of the Suffolk coastline once looked like.
 
Jan Harber said:
Been the Butley River ever since I can remember, and that's a long time...
Certainly from my dad Jack Coote's 1st Edition of East Coast Rivers in 1956 to the 19th and most recent ECR Cruising Companion, edited by me and published by Wiley Nautical in 2008. BTW some of you could usefully update your editions of ECR...

Ralph Brinkley would know more but unless any of you know a medium, it might be tricky getting in touch with him as he died about three or four years ago.

There is a very interesting chapter on The Butley River in W.G. Arnott's book Alde Estuary (published in 1973 and now sadly out of print). He explains that the Butley originally was a wide estuary giving directly onto the sea with ships from foreign parts coming and going. It was possible to sail into the sheltered upper reaches or lie in the Tang river which rose in the wastes of Tangham Forest.
As the author says, so greatly has all this changed that it is difficult to imagine what this part of the Suffolk coastline once looked like.
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Thanks Jan, i realised that Ralph had departed ( others possibly had know idea who he was :D).
now you mention it i do have W.G. Arnotts book somewhere.
he was the chap who used to take the Woodbridge Boat Auction wasnt he.
Roger
 
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