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Ok, I don't have any info to hand apart from the internet and it's a long time since I've sailed in the Solent so please excuse the very basic question I need answering!

I want to leave Lymington tomorrow on the first of the East going tide and float East to Bursledon at the top of the Hamble river. If high water Portsmouth is 9.25 am BST and low water Portsmouth is 14.40 BST what's the earliest time I can depart Lymington to carry the tide. I seem to remember its 2 hours before low water but I honestly can't remember hence this post.

Edited to add its neap tides.

Thanks in anticipation.
 
According to my Imray tides app (which just displays the traditional Admiralty tidal stream atlas with the correct times for the day) you should start seeing a fair tide off Lymington about 2 o'clock tomorrow afternoon:

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Pete
 
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My general rule of thumb is that you get four hours west going tide in the eastern Solent after HW Pompey and five hours in the western Solent so I would agree with prv.
 
Agree with 2:00pm start, which will give you a fair tide until about 19:30. Also, tomorrow is two days past neaps so the tide will be quite weak; but still strongest (circa 2kts max) in the Solent west of Cowes.
 
A general rule of thumb is that the tide in the Solent starts going WEST 1 hour before HW Portsmouth; I find in practice at Chichester entrance it's more like 1.5 hours before, but count on an hour and you can't go far wrong.
 
Seajet said:
A general rule of thumb is that the tide in the Solent starts going WEST 1 hour before HW Portsmouth; I find in practice at Chichester entrance it's more like 1.5 hours before, but count on an hour and you can't go far wrong.
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Off Gilkicker it's 2 hours before HW for West going, 2 Hours before LW for East going.
 
If you leave early, the tide is much weaker on the mainland side.
Main thing is to be in the pub before the ebb starts in the river.
 
prv said:
According to my Imray tides app (which just displays the traditional Admiralty tidal stream atlas with the correct times for the day) you should start seeing a fair tide off Lymington about 2 o'clock tomorrow afternoon:

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Pete
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Hi

That looks like a great app.

Can't find it in App Store?

Can you point me in the right direction?

Thanks

Tony
 
Jabs said:
That looks like a great app.

Can't find it in App Store?
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It's called TidesPlanner. It's made by an outfit called Tucabo, who are contracted to make various apps for Imray. The icon is blue, with a sail and a black and white bar (I guess representing a tide gauge) on it.

It's a pretty good app - loads of information on both heights and streams - but it can be a little fiddly and unintuitive until you get used to it. You also need to buy (in-app purchase) the data you want - a one-off fee to unlock each country (I just have UK and France) and then a per-year fee which covers all the countries you have. Adds up to three or four quid, and well worth it.

If you also have the Imray charts app, the two can talk to each other to display tide arrows on the chart, although since I don't navigate on the chart app I don't use this much.

Pete
 
Seajet said:
A general rule of thumb is that the tide in the Solent starts going WEST 1 hour before HW Portsmouth; I find in practice at Chichester entrance it's more like 1.5 hours before, but count on an hour and you can't go far wrong.
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The flood tide in the east Solent is distorted by the vastness of Portsmouth which pulls the stream in from both east and west. So leave Gosport 3 hours before high water and you won't see a favourable tide for Chi until West Point ( using the dolphin - which can be a bit shallow earlier).
When and if you get the tides right it is quite satisfying, especially at springs.
 
harry potter said:
The flood tide in the east Solent is distorted by the vastness of Portsmouth which pulls the stream in from both east and west. So leave Gosport 3 hours before high water and you won't see a favourable tide for Chi until West Point ( using the dolphin - which can be a bit shallow earlier).
When and if you get the tides right it is quite satisfying, especially at springs.
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I know that you can do time travel but how do you manage to reply to a 3 month old post?
 
Tidal flows. like rocks, don't change. Michael Reeves Foulkes still applies, and our version is 1990. My attention was drawn to the thread because for some reason it had migrated to the first page and I was still in self-congratulatory mood at having timed a very brief free flow exactly right (thank you MRF).
 
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Wandering Star said:
Ok, I don't have any info to hand apart from the internet and it's a long time since I've sailed in the Solent so please excuse the very basic question I need answering!

I want to leave Lymington tomorrow on the first of the East going tide and float East to Bursledon at the top of the Hamble river. If high water Portsmouth is 9.25 am BST and low water Portsmouth is 14.40 BST what's the earliest time I can depart Lymington to carry the tide. I seem to remember its 2 hours before low water but I honestly can't remember hence this post.

Edited to add its neap tides.

Thanks in anticipation.
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Y U usin' BST?

From https://www.tidetimes.org.uk/portsmouth-tide-times-20141212 then double-check your times



[TD="class: high-tide"]High Tide[/TD]
[TD="class: low-tide"]02:48 (4.40m)[/TD]

[TD="class: high-tide"]Low Tide[/TD]
[TD="class: low-tide"]07:51 (1.60m)[/TD]

[TD="class: high-tide"]High Tide[/TD]
[TD="class: low-tide"]14:49 (4.20m)[/TD]

[TD="class: high-tide"]Low Tide[/TD]
[TD="class: low-tide"]20:08 (1.50m)[/TD]
 
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