Those stinkpot peeps have weird sense of whats important!

You misinterpret my meaning, Elessar...but I might have expected you would! Perhaps I should have bellowed it through a loudspeaker? ;)
 
Elessar said:
at least he can comply with the colregs which very few yachts can.......

in fact if you use a sound signal properly, many yachties think you a "beeping" as they haven't a clue what it means!
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Comply with the colregs? What does he think he has got? A superyacht!
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I wish I'd had a system like that a few years ago when I was hove-to single-handed in thick fog just north of Alderney for several hours. At one stage an increasingly loud engine noise, French music and a strong smell of fish indicated the approach of a fishing boat. All I could do was to tighten the straps on my life-jacket and sit there blowing on the pathetic plastic hunting horn that is all I have, apart from screams of fear, to draw attention to my whereabouts until he eventually cleared off.
 
A friend sailed into thick fog off Holyhead.
He was aware of a boat nearby that kept circling. He used a proper brass ex-hunting horn as a suitable fog horn but was running out of breath so he connected his dinghy pump to it and was happily making quite a noise until eventually the HH lifeboat hailed him through the fog!

They explained that they couldnt tell if the DF equipment was better than the crews ears so could he stop making such a racket whilst they repeated the excercise!

Think I will check if I can pimp my horn!
 
parsifal said:
...All I could do was to tighten the straps on my life-jacket and sit there blowing on the pathetic plastic hunting horn that is all I have, apart from screams of fear, to draw attention to my whereabouts until he eventually cleared off.
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Somewhat tricky to take your concern seriously .....whilst glimpsing your avatar from the corner of one's eye ;)
 
To play devil's advocate for a moment, I suppose it is worth asking whether chaps with unashamedly noisy engines and air-horns can actually hear smaller fog-signals?

Hence, perhaps large, complex compressor-driven horns aren't simply the floating equivalent of teenage drivers' absurd bolt-on oversized fluorescent spoilers and tail-pipes...

...are motor-boaters at the helm of their vessels, actually unable to hear the humbler horn signals of boats which aren't similarly equipped?

Is it even worth having mouth horns/whistles etc at all, if the greatest danger on a foggy day is from biggish boats which can't see us, nor hear our best attempts to be noticed?
 
dancrane said:
To play devil's advocate for a moment, I suppose it is worth asking whether chaps with unashamedly noisy engines and air-horns can actually hear smaller fog-signals?

Hence, perhaps large, complex compressor-driven horns aren't simply the floating equivalent of teenage drivers' absurd bolt-on oversized fluorescent spoilers and tail-pipes...

...are motor-boaters at the helm of their vessels, actually unable to hear the humbler horn signals of boats which aren't similarly equipped?

Is it even worth having mouth horns/whistles etc at all, if the greatest danger on a foggy day is from biggish boats which can't see us, nor hear our best attempts to be noticed?
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So don't bother then. What a daft argument.
 
Who's arguing? I'm just asking...do you gents fit ruddy great air-horns just because you know from experience, you can't hear the smaller variety over your own engine noise?
 
There is a good restaurant on the river here and after a nice lunch, we were setting off home in our boats and decided to salute the owner as she waved us off, using the compulsory horns that we carry.
She laughed, then the upstairs window opened and the cook gave us a fanfair on a bugle!
 
Elessar said:
So don't bother then. What a daft argument.
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Not half as daft as putting a full blown air compressor, tank, serious controls just to blow a couple of blingy horns!
Reminds of those plonkers who put blue lights under their cars, lower the suspension so that the car touches the road and put speakers under as well that gives a soundtrack of gear changing and the turbo wastegate opening!
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Stu.....what's your beef? You must have visited the motor boat forum to read the thread and now started this one on here?
I don't understand the need for "us and them" ( I own and operate both sail and power and don't subscribe to being in any camp) lets chill out and enjoy our time on the water!
 
skipper_stu said:
Not half as daft as putting a full blown air compressor, tank, serious controls just to blow a couple of blingy horns!
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If they were used for playing colonel bogey to annoy people in a nature reserve then I'd be with you but I don't see what's wrong with having effective devices for making sound signals with. If you need to use sound signals then people should be able to hear them. Being a bit of a wide boy with a train horn, as long as it's only used where necessary, is rather better from the safety perspective than doing what most of us raggies do and have a next-to-useless hand held horn stuffed away in a locker.
 
laika said:
...a train horn, as long as it's only used where necessary, is rather better from the safety perspective than doing what most of us raggies do and have a next-to-useless hand held horn stuffed away in a locker.
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I'm appalled to find that I agree. Only because, as I suggested above, I suspect the greatest peril to small slow sailboats may come from large quick mobos, whose crews often aren't even outside during fog. They know how ineffectual our hand-held horns are...although perhaps I shouldn't have expected them to agree here, that they represent danger!
 
skipper_stu said:
Not half as daft as putting a full blown air compressor, tank, serious controls just to blow a couple of blingy horns!
Reminds of those plonkers who put blue lights under their cars, lower the suspension so that the car touches the road and put speakers under as well that gives a soundtrack of gear changing and the turbo wastegate opening!
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Well actually I agree! The mega horns are a bit daft. But if an engineer gets pleasure out of over engineering, no harm done. To ridicule having a horn at all when the regulations require one is more than a bit daft though.
 
dancrane said:
I'm appalled to find that I agree. Only because, as I suggested above, I suspect the greatest peril to small slow sailboats may come from large quick mobos, whose crews often aren't even outside during fog. They know how ineffectual our hand-held horns are...although perhaps I shouldn't have expected them to agree here, that they represent danger!
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Yeah I think we are agreeing too and I misunderstood you twice ......
 
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