This should be interesting!

[Searush]

There are no waves in the strait.

You don't go near either end with wind over tide conditions then, I take it?

Nothing dangerous of course, but enough to create slamming & great sheets of spray even at raggie speeds. There are also big standing waves inside the Swellies at certain states or the tide - but some of them have big lumps of rock underneath, so you need to choose carefuly which ones to play in.

You also get some quite extreme wash from fishing boats & the odd MoBo ******** - altho most leisure MoBos are considerate to simple raggies & small open dinghies, some are not.

 

[Kilter]

Sorry, I,m hopelous at the piccy stuff QUOTE]

 

[Kawasaki]

Sorry, I,m hopelous at the piccy stuff QUOTE]

Thanks Kilt!
Anyway
Today WAS interesting.
So we chucked the boat in the Strait.
Bit of slow speed stuff then some quicker stuff
Had 15 mins to get to know Her
Then we were just going to set off and do more stuff.
But a , I dunno, about a 35 ft Yachttie gadget was swilling about Menai Bridge pier
A crew member shouted across
'How long will we ave ter wait loik (Irish) to go through the Swellies?'


'October' I hailed back

Well, I know a bit of Gaelic but I can't really stick the reply on ere

Anyway
They were a bit late really to go through with about 5 kts of tide up their chuffer
I explained how long they would have to wait.
Plus if they did they would not get into the Dock at their next destination which was Port Dinorwic.

So I told em to follow me.
So I took em over the rocky sticky out bits
Yer should have seen their faces!!

Anyway
Although they almost broached once they shot through!

'Geessus , that was interesting' shouted the Helm as we left them hurtling under Brittania bridge.

'Thanks a lot, you must go through here all the time?'

'Naw' I shouted back, 'First time last Tuesday'!

Anyway
First impressions of this Twin hulled hydra rib gadgett
Bloody well impressed!

During the day we met up with a bloke with a lot more experience than me on this kinda thing
He had a blast.
He was impressed too
Like peeps have said
At a nice tidy cruising speed of say 20/ 25 kts wang the wheel over and do a nice tight turn (best with a bit more throttle on the outward eng) an she turns like a good un with no perceivable tilt!

Bleedin fantastic
Found some lumpy bits in Puffin Sound
Impressed agin
See what the morrow brings
'I,ll be back'!

 

[GrowingLad]

there isn't that much of them.

I know, but what there is, doesn't look too shabby

 

[Kawasaki]

I know, but what there is, doesn't look too shabby

Yer not wrong!
Unfortunately this Model didn't come with those Models!

 

[Philiz]

Thanks Kilt!
Anyway
Today WAS interesting.
So we chucked the boat in the Strait.
Bit of slow speed stuff then some quicker stuff
Had 15 mins to get to know Her
Then we were just going to set off and do more stuff.
But a , I dunno, about a 35 ft Yachttie gadget was swilling about Menai Bridge pier
A crew member shouted across
'How long will we ave ter wait loik (Irish) to go through the Swellies?'


'October' I hailed back

Well, I know a bit of Gaelic but I can't really stick the reply on ere

Anyway
They were a bit late really to go through with about 5 kts of tide up their chuffer
I explained how long they would have to wait.
Plus if they did they would not get into the Dock at their next destination which was Port Dinorwic.

So I told em to follow me.
So I took em over the rocky sticky out bits
Yer should have seen their faces!!

Anyway
Although they almost broached once they shot through!

'Geessus , that was interesting' shouted the Helm as we left them hurtling under Brittania bridge.

'Thanks a lot, you must go through here all the time?'

'Naw' I shouted back, 'First time last Tuesday'!

Anyway
First impressions of this Twin hulled hydra rib gadgett
Bloody well impressed!

During the day we met up with a bloke with a lot more experience than me on this kinda thing
He had a blast.
He was impressed too
Like peeps have said
At a nice tidy cruising speed of say 20/ 25 kts wang the wheel over and do a nice tight turn (best with a bit more throttle on the outward eng) an she turns like a good un with no perceivable tilt!

Bleedin fantastic
Found some lumpy bits in Puffin Sound
Impressed agin
See what the morrow brings
'I,ll be back'!

Now anybody who doesn't know Kwackers will probably think he's embellishing this story a bit. Those who do know him will know it to be word for word true.

 

[BrendanS]

Disappointing he didn't flatten a few more of the rocks though!

 

[Searush]

Disappointing he didn't flatten a few more of the rocks though!

What! That mile of turbulent water is a National Heritage site, we need it to torment the tourists from Ireland & the Channel. Don't go encouraging him.

 

[Kawasaki]

Rushie
I reckon the 'Oirish' cracked Roger Bannisters record over said mile today!

I guided em right close to 'Price's Point so they made the turn to Port save em twatting Gorad Goch
At that state of the tide through , there is a back eddy right close into the 'Cone/ Beacon' .

Like I mean real close to the Bangor shore.

So no tips knocked off Today
I think?
Oh well, there is Tomorrow!

 

[BrendanS]

What! That mile of turbulent water is a National Heritage site, we need it to torment the tourists from Ireland & the Channel. Don't go encouraging him.

Or just sell it as a service to the adrenaline junkies, and have them turn up in droves. Let him get it wrong a few times so they lose a keel or two, to keep up they myth of it being dangerous.

 

[Major Catastrophe]

There are no waves in the strait.

You don't go near either end with wind over tide conditions then, I take it?

You are being pedantic Steve. "Either end" is outside of the Strait.

 

[Searush]

You are being pedantic Steve. "Either end" is outside of the Strait.

No sir, Beaumaris & Caernarfon might not be in the Swellies, but they are inside the Straits.

At both locations, with wind over ebb there will be a nasty short steep chop. Probably only about a meter or so high, but it will slow down a saily boat & give a planing boat a nasty pounding. I agree that the Bar & the 10' bank will be worse in the same conditions, but they ARE outside the Straits.

I have seen my keels out of the water in the waves off Caernarfon.

 

[Searush]

Or just sell it as a service to the adrenaline junkies, and have them turn up in droves. Let him get it wrong a few times so they lose a keel or two, to keep up they myth of it being dangerous.

Brendan, the real adrenaline junkies "drift dive" the Swellies - now that must be quite an experience. Bowling along apex over base in the total dark bouncing off the uneven bottom along with weed, small rocks & various marine animals. Why would anyone think that was fun? Or even worth experiencing - but they do do it.

I once did an Instructor Canoeing course in the Swellies - that was fun, you could sit in the stoppers, move L & R, up & down & even flip end to end.

 

[Kawasaki]

So.
We went either end and all the bits in the middle!

Yesterday afternoon we beetled off to Puffin sound and found some lumpy bits
More lumps at 'C9' just after the speed limit going westish, well at 235 deg 'M' ish!

Not that will mean owt to most folks on ere!

So we had about 4kts of tide up our blunt end and 12 kts of wind against towards our first destination, which is a South Cardinal which denotes the chage in bouyage in the Strait.
So , yep a few waves were met.
For those that haven't come across a place like the Strait.
Confusion can range here
The Solent has the same anomally
Because there are two 'entrances' to the head of navigation
IE, Caernarfon.
A 'change, must take place
Peeps coming into the Strait from the 'Southern' end need to ahead to IALA System A
So do the peeps coming from the 'Nothern' end.
So -- somewhere a change takes place.
Rollocks, we don't need to know that I reckon at the mo!

Back to this 'diffo' rib gadgett

Well anyway
During the last two days we did find enough lumpy stuff in, an, out the Strait

Up to 2 metrtes.
What a great vessel

She did not SLAM during any manouver.
Sits flat as you like through 90 deg turns turns at whatever speed your dare.

As someone said , it is the weird g force that you have to get used to.

So you shove off, tweek the throttles and she is doing 20 kts before you know it
Then, whatever takes yer fancy
I liked her at 3000 rpm or maybe a tad more on the two 60 Mariner 4 strokes.

Did a sorta measured mile, against and with the current

28 kts with
19 agin
This gives yer a kinda picture of what the Strait is like
This was in a rather benign area by the way.
So yer gets her on the plane like a 'normal' rib.
Then tweeks the trim out for about 2 secs then She 'Lifts'

OK, the Bow lifts like a normal planing hull, ish!
Then as you stick some more power on an the plot kinda levels out an yer know yer hydraphoilin or summat
Bleedin marvelous!

Flippen cuts through stuff like I,ve never experienced.

Really really a soft ride
So different from a mono hull and hard boats with twin hull type configurations I have helmed
'Cheeta' make a hard vessel, I have helmed two with 75 hp four strokes on the blunt end
They are good boats
This is something different
OK, this is for a different purpose too, I acknowledge that.

Tother thing.
When planing at, say 16 ter whatever yer want
Mininmum wash!
I would say 40% less if not more than mono at same speed.

Twill be intersting to work out fuel consumption
I have an idea but will not know till we fill up.

OK, we were only bashing up an down The Menai
Could be a different story 'Out There' with a dirty big rolling sea
But
I think she would cope
Nowt ter do the makers etc etc by the way
Just telling how I found

The owner wants swmbo to have a session
On the boat that is!

Said Lady had a quick go today
An I mean QUICK

Flat out
Childers 'whooping' , I think we have found a new Lady helm who is about to join the Clan

Nice

 

[hlb]

Kwakers has been up and down the straits all day, in a blown up thingy. They did some pontoon bashing for a while, but mainly bashed my dinghy. He did say he was coming visiting this morning, but it's 9 30 PM and he has not arrived yet.

 

[Searush]

He's still hydrofoiling 10' off the ground on adrenaline!

Anybody get a pic of him passing - or was it just too fast?

It's just NE of the old Oil Jetty where the nasty chop usually is - shortly before you arrived at the change of nav bouy. Where was the 4.5 kts current then? It's too low for the Swellies on springs - was it around the oil jetty? Or in the Swellies closer to slack water?

 

[Kawasaki]

. He did say he was coming visiting this morning, but it's 9 30 PM and he has not arrived yet.

We did visit early on
But we went past at 30 kts an four foot above the water
Normally the wash would av waked yer but there werent any

We heard a loud bang
Thought we'd hit summat but nowt to report
The Retort mussed av been the Sound Barrier

 

[Kawasaki]

He's still hydrofoiling 10' off the ground on adrenaline!

Anybody get a pic of him passing - or was it just too fast?

It's just NE of the old Oil Jetty where the nasty chop usually is - shortly before you arrived at the change of nav bouy. Where was the 4.5 kts current then? It's too low for the Swellies on springs - was it around the oil jetty? Or in the Swellies closer to slack water?

We did the Oil Jetty after pontoon bashing in Victoria dock
We zoomed in an out the legs of said pier.
Twas runnin at about 5 as yer said
Then we used the wind an current to 'sideways' onto the wall north/east of the jetty
Tiss good about there to muck about
Specially in the night whilst doin the 'advanced' course

 

[tdavis]

Hysucat

Hi forum - its my jocking boat you are all chatting about!!!!!!

Glad it seems to have got such a good review

 

[Kilter]

Hi forum - its my jocking boat you are all chatting about!!!!!!

Glad it seems to have got such a good review

Hiya T, welcome to the madhouse! Your jocking boat sounds a lot of fun...we'll be looking out for you!