This seems outstanding value

[jfm]

Very kind of you, thanks a lot for an interesting reading.
I must say that also nowadays, I can't think of a 17m P boat with a better layout and use of spaces - I even disagree to some extent with their only criticism, i.e. the small dinette.
Mid cabin aside of course, which most folks now take for granted at that size, but is actually (imho) not worth stealing all the space it takes, on boats up to 60' or so.

Another thing that grabbed my attention is the performance table, that starts at 1200rpm/12.4 knots.
Obviously, back in those days (when I had just moved to a pure D boat!), pootling was not even considered worth mentioning.
The times they are a-changin', I reckon...

I totally agree mapism, which is why I bought two of them. This was Fairline when they were on top form, at least in the plastic-fantastic category. Also worth mentioning is the outstanding fuel range: not many production P boats can do Antibes-Mahon in one shot with 25% fuel left.

As regards the size of the interior dinette table, it is fine. And just right for negotiating a long contract I reckon :encouragement:

 

[MapisM]

Also worth mentioning is the outstanding fuel range: not many production P boats can do Antibes-Mahon in one shot with 25% fuel left.

According to MBY (not that they can know better than yourself, of course), she can do even better than that.
They report a 400nm range at the very decent cuise speed of 24 kts, and that trip is well under 300nm.
Assuming 300, it would fit with what you are saying (25% left), BUT they say that the range is calculated allowing a 20% reserve...!
I didn't cross check their math, though.

LOL, yeah, that use of the dinette rings a bell!

 

[Nick_H]

According to MBY (not that they can know better than yourself, of course), she can do even better than that.
They report a 400nm range at the very decent cuise speed of 24 kts, and that trip is well under 300nm.
Assuming 300, it would fit with what you are saying (25% left), BUT they say that the range is calculated allowing a 20% reserve...!
I didn't cross check their math, though.

LOL, yeah, that use of the dinette rings a bell!

We cruise with a Sq58 most of the time, and their real world fuel use is the same as ours at 9-10 litres per NM, so a range of about 250 NM with 20% reserve. It would be bit better straight out of the yard with polished props of course, but 400 with reserve seems wildly optimistic.

 

[MapisM]

I don't think jfm meant that the Sq58 magically burns less than other similar boats - more likely that she has bigger tanks, I would guess.
600 imp. gallons, as reported from MBY. How big are yours?

That said, according to the test numbers, she burned 5.5 litres per NM at 24 knots (i.e. 133 lph @ 1800rpm), which would be much better than your 9-10, and does sound a bit optimistic.
Mind, that's with the Cat 3406 rather than the VP D12 - not that I'd expect heavier and larger engines to make the boat burn less, anyway.
Anyway, I'm just talking by the seat of my pants now, surely jfm knows better, at least with the D12s...

 

[Nick_H]

I don't think jfm meant that the Sq58 magically burns less than other similar boats - more likely that she has bigger tanks, I would guess.

Yes, and I agree with him. I was just pointing out that whilst the Sq58 does indeed have decent tankage and therefore a good range, it certainly wont do 400 NM with reserve in real life cruising.

 

[MapisM]

Well, I didn't say she does - just reporting what MBY published...