There's a new MAGNUM on the way

Nop - definitely essential
Well, not for everyone, I reckon.
Maybe I am in a minority of one, but plenty of boats I've seen had two stairs, and as I said I like that.
Including my 2nd and 3dr choice, btw...
...But eventually I bought a boat without internal stair.
Compromises, as always.
 
I don't see how you can do proper meals without 2x meile ovens and a >60cm induction hob. A big induction hob has a big power factor and that's why you need Princess to wire the boat so you can run both generators occasionally. Wine cooler is nice but surely not in the P75 galley where space is at a real premium - it can go somewhere else.

If you don't get glendinning you'll be limited to 63 amp yellow cable. The 100amp cable is simply too heavy to coil up by hand and needs glendinning (3x 25mm sq cores plus the outer sheath). I have TWO glendinning CM8s; they're not that hard to fit. But one would be fine.

Yes the sleipners are awesome and incredibly well made and reliable. I have the 1050s too and my brother just fitted same to his Aquastar 74. They are near-silent even when you're close to them in the master cabin. You'll have the sleipner hydraulic pack so you can spec hydraulic thrusters and anchor winch too. I'd also spec as an option the ability to run anchor winch off the electric hydraulic pump - allows you to shut down the main engines earlier when docking.

I'm in 2 minds about 2 anchors (!). I can see the attraction but I know I would never deploy two together, so one of them would be back up. (Reason for not deploying 2 is that if I'm that worried about slippage then the last thing I want is 2 anchors to retrieve before I can get the hell out of there. My approach to bad weather is you need to be more worried getting out than staying put). Risk of failure is incredibly small when you have a hydraulic single winch with manual over rides on valves and 3 x hydraulic pumps (as you'll get with the sleipner set up). For me it would need to be 2x Ultra-style anchors, not Bruces pocketed together, and that's hard to do on a 24m boat without heavy mods to the mouldings and some potential ugliness. In short, if I did a princess 75 I'd have a single anchor but very well specc-ed. I do respect the view of those who prefer 2 anchors though

What are you going to do with the aft flybridge deck? Crane for extra toys? Or just sunbeds?

I would revisit Princess's layout for the ceiling downlighters in the hard top. You need zones and dimmers because you need to create the right mood up there for night time dinners etc. I ignored Fairline's HT lighting layout and started afresh, with ~2x the number of fixtures. You've probably reaches same conclusion having lived with the p68 standard spec hard top lighting. Also consider whether the LED light fixtures throughout the boat make the grade and are the colour you want

On badassery, spec the top u/w lights and take them down the sides :))) I'd post some new pics but for the photobucket thing
How much space do your Glendinning drums take up?

Re flybridge I think I'm going to delete the aft sunpad and have free standing sunloungers with the whole area covered by an awning.

Princess only offer the Lumishore SMX52 underwater lights which are totally inadequate for a boat of this size. I'm looking at the EOS TIX1602 lights and EOS STV2202 Wi-Fi controller, but Princess have quoted me £15k for 4 fitted!
 
How much space do your Glendinning drums take up?

Re flybridge I think I'm going to delete the aft sunpad and have free standing sunloungers with the whole area covered by an awning.

Princess only offer the Lumishore SMX52 underwater lights which are totally inadequate for a boat of this size. I'm looking at the EOS TIX1602 lights and EOS STV2202 Wi-Fi controller, but Princess have quoted me £15k for 4 fitted!
Glendinning drive unit, that grabs/pulls the cable, is small. The space is used by the drum that holds the coiled cable. Mine are like dustbins about 400mm diameter and 1m tall and you need some space above that cylinder to mount the drive unit. That's for a 100amp cable set up with 25m of cable. So it takes some effort to find a space.

Good going on aft flybridge but maybe a small crane for canoe and seabob type stuff that E and friends will demand when older! There's a small besenzoni crane that folds up really small if you don't want a 400kg beast

Lumishore are reassuringly expensive in the 1601 size. MRSP is in the ball park of £2-3k per light (googlable if need better number) so I suspect there is only perhaps £5k margin in that number for princess. 1601 is an awesome light - I have 12 of them, fitted last year. Pic below. With that number I have grouped them and can switch half off, or each individual light can be on/off via 12 breakers in the distribution box. I much prefer THX to TIX (which relates to the casing spec, not the light, as you know) but they do sell a lot more TIX. My reasoning is that I like 25mm holes with a massive flange over them, rather than much bigger holes and a small flange.
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Good going on aft flybridge but maybe a small crane for canoe and seabob type stuff that E and friends will demand when older! There's a small besenzoni crane that folds up really small if you don't want a 400kg beast

If Magnum is going to use this space as a lounging area, wouldn't he be fitting safety rails. If so, any crane might have to be articulated to clear the rails - does the Besenzoni one do that?
 
If Magnum is going to use this space as a lounging area, wouldn't he be fitting safety rails. If so, any crane might have to be articulated to clear the rails - does the Besenzoni one do that?

....or could fold down safety rails be fitted, in the area whereaccess is needed?
 
Could you have lift out rails ?

Years ago I contemplated one of those cranes for the back of the P42. I never did get to see one and strangely popped onto the Besenzoni stand at Cannes thinking they might have one to see but sadly not.

Henry :)
 
I'm happy with the standard rails and a large open deck area covered with an awning.

Back to the ground tackle. I asked for an 80KG Ultra anchor which I think will provide the best possible holding for a vessel of this size. Initially Princess said it wouldn't fit, but now have said it will subject to a revision of the stem roller assembly and of course a four figure sum for doing so. Standard anchor chain is 100mm of 12mm galv.

It was mentioned a few posts back that the V6 windlass might need to be upgraded to a v8, and looking at Lewmar's windlass selection guide an 80ft vessel is at the upper limits of the V6's range. However, Lewmar go on to say that having selected an appropriate windlass the weight of the rode should be added to the anchor weight and in the case of the V6 multiplied by 2, then compared to the max pull of the windlass. So in this case 100m of 12mm chain will weigh c. 320KG + 80G anchor x 2 = 800KG. The max pull of the V6 hydraulic is 1450KG, which is more than adequate.
 
Yup v6 will be fine imho
Get s/s chain though; you'll hate the galvanised :D
I've busted my Lewmar/Delta anchor so am about to buy a new one. Probably Ultra. At this size they're all in the £6k ballpark. That was an expensive afternoon.
 
Yup v6 will be fine imho
Get s/s chain though; you'll hate the galvanised :D
I've busted my Lewmar/Delta anchor so am about to buy a new one. Probably Ultra. At this size they're all in the £6k ballpark. That was an expensive afternoon.
Ouch!
Cannot recommend Ultra enough. They are incredible, plus they provide a touch of baddassery, I think :D
 
It was mentioned a few posts back that the V6 windlass might need to be upgraded to a v8, and looking at Lewmar's windlass selection guide an 80ft vessel is at the upper limits of the V6's range. However, Lewmar go on to say that having selected an appropriate windlass the weight of the rode should be added to the anchor weight and in the case of the V6 multiplied by 2, then compared to the max pull of the windlass. So in this case 100m of 12mm chain will weigh c. 320KG + 80G anchor x 2 = 800KG. The max pull of the V6 hydraulic is 1450KG, which is more than adequate.

It is correct that V6 may do the work but it will be working at its limits as you may see from the below chart:
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If I was at your seat, I would get the V8 because there will be times that you will pull up not only your anchor, but also someone else's, as they may have laid their chain on yours. For these cases, you will not have problem with power, as you have hydraulics. But the gearbox will get the pressure and you may end up with a torn away gear at the gearbox. You have single anchor set, back to marina, holiday is paused! Same applies for the times that you drop the chain and pull a bit back with your engines to dig it in the seabed.

It is now just a few thousands more to upgrade it, whereas it is minimum 4 times of it when you would like to do it later on.
 
Why should a lump of 316 s/s forged into a fancy shape cost £6k.

Yeah, the R&D budget; relatively small numbers produced etc etc.

Even so.

Nice boat, Magnum, btw :encouragement:
 
Are you back after a brief ban? I noticed your tag under your name read "Shore leave"?

Yes I used an everyday expletive in a post which apparently is considered rude
 
For me it would need to be 2x Ultra-style anchors, not Bruces pocketed together, and that's hard to do on a 24m boat without heavy mods to the mouldings and some potential ugliness.
Yesterday I came across a 70-something Ferretti which reminded me of this 2 anchors debate.
Dunno if this is the standard ground tackle for this model, but it looked rather well done.
Btw, the pic perspective is a bit deceiving, but there's enough room (just) for using each anchor independently.
A thing of beauty it ain't, I reckon. But I've yet to see a very elegant solution for anchors on bow rollers anyway, even when single... :)
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The problem with having 2 Ultras is the width of the shovel, so fitting 2 side by side would be very difficult. Of course that's one of the features that makes them so effective so I'd take 1 x Ultra over 2 x Deltas every time.
 
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Yesterday I came across a 70-something Ferretti which reminded me of this 2 anchors debate.
Dunno if this is the standard ground tackle for this model, but it looked rather well done.
Btw, the pic perspective is a bit deceiving, but there's enough room (just) for using each anchor independently.
A thing of beauty it ain't, I reckon. But I've yet to see a very elegant solution for anchors on bow rollers anyway, even when single... :)
ObkfIYro_o.jpg

Thats a shame that they are Deltas though.
Now - with Rocnas, that would be something.
 
Yesterday I came across a 70-something Ferretti which reminded me of this 2 anchors debate.
Dunno if this is the standard ground tackle for this model, but it looked rather well done.
Btw, the pic perspective is a bit deceiving, but there's enough room (just) for using each anchor independently.
A thing of beauty it ain't, I reckon. But I've yet to see a very elegant solution for anchors on bow rollers anyway, even when single... :)
It isnt standard. Ferretti always fit Bruce anchors as standard. No idea why; I suspect its because the shape fits the bow more nicely than other anchor types. What I do like about this set up is that unlike the standard Ferretti set up in which both anchors are the same size, this set up has 1 x big anchor and a second smaller emergency anchor. Agree with hurricane. 2 x Rocnas would be even better

PS think this is a Ferretti 730/731
 
It isnt standard. Ferretti always fit Bruce anchors as standard. No idea why; I suspect its because the shape fits the bow more nicely than other anchor types. What I do like about this set up is that unlike the standard Ferretti set up in which both anchors are the same size, this set up has 1 x big anchor and a second smaller emergency anchor. Agree with hurricane. 2 x Rocnas would be even better

PS think this is a Ferretti 730/731

Then again if you have a Rocna you don't need 2.:encouragement:
 
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