Graham376
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To claim RGR, the person bringing the boat back in must be the same person who exported it, do HMRC accept a delivery crew as owner's agents/transporters?
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To claim RGR, the person bringing the boat back in must be the same person who exported it, do HMRC accept a delivery crew as owner's agents/transporters?
dunedin
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That is some welcome positive news much needed for this thread (though assume that is jab 1 only, so end June for Jab 2?).
I do think that for many of us (not high risk and shielding, and not work constrained) with a will there is often a way. My overseas trip was binned last year, but with advance prep I dropped the marina lines on the first day we were allowed to stay on board, and cruised for 2,000 miles in Uk waters - pretty much entirely in my floating Covid bubble, on anchor most nights and only one meal in a restaurant (when ran out of food on an island with no shop open).
Lucky Duck
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Looking through the photos on my phone the boat was back in the water and in commission on 15 May. (It had been lifted out for annual paint and polish on 24 Feb and was due to re-launch just before Easter)
Personally - simply changing the restrictions in England back to those in place in November (or the 'old' tier 4) would make a lot of difference.
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dunedin
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I am not a legal expert, but I believe the delivery crew is not an issue, and you would be making the “application” for RGR as owner. But worst case the delivery skipper phones Yachtline as your “agent”.
A conversation with a delivery company plus a prior conversation with Yachtline should sort that out.
And as noted, if a genuine professional delivery (with contract, proof of payment etc) can’t see why they couldn’t have you signed up as delivery crew.
Plan early though, as suspect might get busy as 31/12/21 VAT RGR deadline gets closer
Mudisox
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Comment was that marinas, if shut and they put staff on furlough, saved money for the company, despite having the income of folk who had boats that were stuck inside.
Lightwave395
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I'm happy to bring the boat back solo, it's getting the gear over and back onboard that may be the gating factor, I have a mate who would come over with me and take the car back subject to entry provisions. If it were a factor I suppose I could turn myself into a delivery company....
TernVI
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I would think having jabbed the over 60s or maybe over-55s or some other milestone will be one factor the gov't will consider.
The number of new cases will still be a prime consideration. And that is not falling as quickly as it should be IMHO.
I'm not committing to much before the end of April, I think we will have 'tier' type restrictions beyond then.
So we are planning a sailing season to make the best of that kind of scenario.
Babylon
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All forms of change - Brexit, Covid, forest fires, etc - present as opportunities for those with initiative.
Lightwave395
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My thoughts entirely - with a bit of MS word and Adobe you can produce the documentation to become anything you want !All forms of change - Brexit, Covid, forest fires, etc - present as opportunities for those with initiative.
matt1
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I'm going to wait for the promised "clarity" w/c 22/2 but on current course and trajectory will likely push my lift out back into May (from March / April). I got a mixed response speaking to a couple of suppliers today. One suggested I should carry on with my lift out and claim antifouling was essential work, the other reminded me we are only allowed out to exercise or get medicine or food. Crucially he also told me the Marina's were deserted of private individuals working on their boats - it was only contractors. I'm trying to avoid doing some sailing, then coming out the water, then going back in but I may have to do that as the yard will, I'm sure, be busy with everyone being delayed.
Good news is that, family circumstances permitting, I'm hoping to do a long solo offshore passage so no need to worry about overnight stays once 12nm offshore or marina availability ;-)
Good news is that, family circumstances permitting, I'm hoping to do a long solo offshore passage so no need to worry about overnight stays once 12nm offshore or marina availability ;-)
Lucky Duck
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I have my suspicions about the timing of today's announcement, however if we at first revert back to November's restrictions/tier 4 then sailing should be permitted but working on your own boat apparently not (I think such an incremental approach is looking less likely). If we go to something similar to last May then all should be good.
Speaking to my usual spot for lifting out they recommended booking a spot and then moving it as events dictated.
bushwacka
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Purchased my boat with big plans a few weeks befoe covid kicked off last year. Due to the uncertain situation she's laid up in a boatyard far from where I live so only have since made a few brief visits. Engine has been winterised and a dehumidifier is running but starting to feel unsettled about leaving her unused for coming up to a year now with the future outlook no less uncertain. Should I start to get worried about things starting to seize up like winches, seacocks etc from lack of use? What other things should I be worried about?
newtothis
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Asteroid strikes and a zombie apocalypse are pretty high on my list of concerns.
Babylon
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Don't worry, Boris has said he's going to give us a timetable for both of these on the 22nd Feb...!
doug748
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Fear not, nothing is going to fall apart on the boat or it's sailing structure. The running rigging may get green though, as can the sails if they are still above decks, esp a furling headsail.
Deck leaks can be a problem and, if upholstery is aboard, it may be hard to get it back to pristine condition if it becomes soaked, as can woodwork.
Visit when you can, if it is dry you have done your best.
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nortada
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Stay positive.
Lots can go wrong but with 50+ years experience owning boats most of the time nothing does. She is out of the water so can’t sink
Things can seize but again seldom do and if they do, normally not too difficult or expensive to free them off.
Currently we have one boat in the water in the U.K. over 1,000 miles away, which we haven’t seen for over a year but knowing friends and the yard are keeping a weathered eye.
Conversely, here in Lagos, Portugal we are surrounded by 300 or so boats floating in their berths. Many of the owners have not seen their boats for well over a year but the vessels look none the worse for it. To date none have taken water.
Keep the faith, all will come good in the end.?
Babylon
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Bushwaka - fear not, nothing will seize up or disintegrate in your absence. But you say the boat is laid up ashore, so why not ask the yard to check her exterior for peace of mind? If you want the interior checked as well then post them your spare set of keys.
dunedin
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Out of interest (and as such no compulsion for you to say if don’t want to), what were the reasons you chose not to go sailing last year, when things started to open up in July?
Many managed good sailing, albeit in waters closer to where the boat was based - eg UK home waters, or Denmark if wintered there, etc.
I am certainly hoping to be going sailing again this season, albeit not soon and probably only in domestic waters.