Then and Now.

[oldgit]

Way back in the mists of time owned a 1982 Princess 33 did a couple of thousand hours over several years ,do recall a particular characteristic of the boat, apart from the leaky windows and various tanks rotting out.
Recently helped a collegue move a really nice Sealine 35SC , a boat have always admired for its plain simple lines and modern interior space.

On returning to club moorings , memories of a 45 year old Princess 33 came flooding back, while at the helm, the SC 35 was wandering all over the place requiring constant and immediate correction to keep a heading.
Outdrives Eh
"Plus ça change" ?

 

[PCUK]

Easy fix on any boat. Fit a fixed rudder (actually a small keel) right aft at the transom and it will solve this problem without affecting normal handling. Proven on various different types of boats over the years. But I know I won't be able to convince you OG.

 

[ari]

You don't like outdrives. We get it.

 

[ari]

Easy fix on any boat. Fit a fixed rudder (actually a small keel) right aft at the transom and it will solve this problem without affecting normal handling. Proven on various different types of boats over the years. But I know I won't be able to convince you OG.

Easier fix is don't try to drive a boat like a car, sawing away at the wheel the whole time. It really isn't necessary.

 

[PCUK]

Not sure how you drive a car. I did have a Standard Vanguard with what we used to call TV steering - how you'd see people driving cars when they were in a studio with a road on a screen behind. Not easy to avoid overcorrection on a boat without a decent keel especially at slow speed on a river or canal.

 

[oldgit]

You don't like outdrives. We get it.

Have I mentioned why a not very old boat immaculate service history and with the latest evilution of outdrives was out the water for over a week......
Can anyone guess , not just the oil seals on the prop shafts , go on, your dying to ask

 

[stelican]

Have I mentioned why a not very old boat immaculate service history and with the latest evilution of outdrives was out the water for over a week......
Can anyone guess , not just the oil seals on the prop shafts , go on, your dying to ask

Love the "Evilution"

 

[PCUK]

Ash tray was full?

 

[oldgit]

Ash tray was full?

......bout the only thing that did not need fixing, the real grief was getting new gearchange cables through the transom and the trim indicator thingies were a problem.
All working now, Band Aids on hands been removed and boat ready for the first club trip of the season up to St Kats.
The expected weather apparently will be of the special UK Bank Holiday type.

 

[ari]

Have I mentioned why a not very old boat immaculate service history and with the latest evilution of outdrives was out the water for over a week......
Can anyone guess , not just the oil seals on the prop shafts , go on, your dying to ask

Quite literally incredible the bad luck people with outdrives (that you don't) like have around you isn't it? Absolutely unbelievable.

My condolences to them all...

 

[SC35]

Mine doesn’t really wander around all over the place.
Check steering rams and steering fluid level?

Gear change cables need to be replaced every now and again.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Wandering outdrive boat can be fixed easily, bit more throttle on the downwind engine and a touch of counter steering to compensate. Runs true hands off.

 

[SC35]

Wandering outdrive boat can be fixed easily, bit more throttle on the downwind engine and a touch of counter steering to compensate. Runs true hands off.

But neither my twin engined S28 with KAD32s nor the SC35 wander at low speed.
It’s just not a thing if everything is working properly.

The other thing to check is the tie bar alignment … if misaligned, you’ll have an unstable setup.

The S24 with a single engine did, though, and small inputs applied ahead of the wander ended up being almost muscle memory.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

I did experience this on my Bav S40, the throttle/rudder trick fixed it though. Different hull shapes and windage will make a big difference I expect.

 

[oldgit]

Quite literally incredible the bad luck people with outdrives (that you don't) like have around you isn't it? Absolutely unbelievable.

My condolences to them all...

A picture is worth a thousand words ?
This boat will probably never move again without a tow and whats it worth without vast amounts of money and time .

Folks getting boats ready for the season.

Different boat moored few short metres away has just returned after considerable work to remedy corrosion on both legs .
and
That SC 35 moored just across from both.

"Bad Luck" been their only friend ? or something else in common.
Why not Be Lucky and keep to the straight and narrow with a nice set of simple reliable S****s.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

lol. The root cause of that is lack of maintenance, not the presence or absence of outdrives

 

[Momac]

"Bad Luck"

Despite your own experience and many similar rants you have failed to understand that timely maintenence of outdrives is important.
But you may also give the impression that shaft drives require no maintenence at all and never have expensive issues which is not correct.

 

[Grubble]

Despite your own experience and many similar rants you have failed to understand that timely maintenence of outdrives is important.
But you may also give the impression that shaft drives require no maintenence at all and never have expensive issues which is not correct.

I think the point he is making, is that shaft drive boats don't need to be anti-fouled and can be left on a mud berth for years with no adverse effects.

Outdrive boats on the other hand melt as soon as they come into contact with the water and petrol powered boats explode before anti-foul can be applied.

 

[ari]

I think the point he is making, is that shaft drive boats don't need to be anti-fouled and can be left on a mud berth for years with no adverse effects.

Outdrive boats on the other hand melt as soon as they come into contact with the water and petrol powered boats explode before anti-foul can be applied.

Exactly! And don't forget the boats with canopies that will amputate your fingers the very first time you try to remove or fit them!

I don't think I want to go boating on the east coast with all that going on, and especially now I know about these mysterious ghostly forces that try and wrest control of your outdrives and send you off into passing mud banks unless you bravely fight them at the wheel every inch of the way!

 

[oldgit]

Despite your own experience and many similar rants you have failed to understand that timely maintenence of outdrives is important.
But you may also give the impression that shaft drives require no maintenence at all and never have expensive issues which is not correct.

Au contraire, am so very well aware that outdrives need regular maintaince.
Just pointing out that a shaft driven boat needs considerably less.

The boat in the picture probably has zip fasteners on those outdrives, considering the number of times it has limped up to be lifted out at the menders.
However "Noblesse oblige", somebody not a million miles away conscientiously followed each time , with a boat using a reliable method of power, to ensure it got the mile or so to safety.