The secret path to an ever fragrant sea toilet - 2.30 mins

MM5AHO said:
I cannot tell from this video that there's no vented loops.
We have vented loops and if I made a similar video they would not be visible.


I use a bucket for the walls, with a cloth, and fresh water with a little disinfectant in the water. Doesn't leave salty deposit when dry.
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Have another look at the video, plain as the nose on your face. No offence about your nose. There's a lot of loos with them that don't need them and it makes for a tough pump out which means people pump way too little, but the subject's been done enough already.
 
OMG Dylan! Having followed your boating exploits and films, I had decided you were highly fanciable, despite having a lovely wife or partner!! But your use of the bloody loo brush to clean the walls is too revolting for words, so I'm having to revise my previous fantasy. :o

I take your point that the seawater in the cleaned heads is probably not too bad (well it's all relative) but the brush itself will be harbouring a disgusting stew of cr** in all the crevices and bristles.

Please take note ....many forum readers are women with significantly higher cleanliness standards. This thread should have come with a health warning....

From a disappointed admirer
 
Vanilla said:
OMG Dylan! Having followed your boating exploits and films, I had decided you were highly fanciable, despite having a lovely wife or partner!! But your use of the bloody loo brush to clean the walls is too revolting for words, so I'm having to revise my previous fantasy. :o

I take your point that the seawater in the cleaned heads is probably not too bad (well it's all relative) but the brush itself will be harbouring a disgusting stew of cr** in all the crevices and bristles.

Please take note ....many forum readers are women with significantly higher cleanliness standards. This thread should have come with a health warning....

From a disappointed admirer
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not a chance of the bugs or anything surviving on the brush. It is sprayed with the bog cleaner spray so it is exceptionally clean and is replaced every few days - pack of five from the pound shop

you will be confessing soon that your loo brush is the same as you had last year - that would be disgusting

how old is your loo brush? We should be told.
 
No cross contamination, yeah right! I've just watched you scrub sh*t off the pan and then use the same brush to scrub it into the walls. Lets all throw our toothbrushes away and use the bog brush instead :disgust:. I love your videos! but man that journey has obviously affected your cells.
 
tjanna said:
No cross contamination, yeah right! I've just watched you scrub sh*t off the pan and then use the same brush to scrub it into the walls. Lets all throw our toothbrushes away and use the bog brush instead :disgust:. I love your videos! but man that journey has obviously affected your cells.
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you left out the bit where the loo was rendered spotless

of course.... feel free not to do this

it has got to be better than the average pizza hut salad bar

read this and weep

https://www.food.gov.uk/scotland/researchscot/scotlandresearch/ScotlandProjectList/fs241064

Between 2008 and 2011 approximately 20% of salad items sampled at retail and catering premises in Scotland failed due to unsatisfactory levels of microbiological contamination with the majority of failures attributed to the presence of elevated levels of hygiene indicators including E.coli, staphylococcus, and listeria species.



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I watched an episode of myth busters where they tested hand hygiene after visiting toilet. There was big difference in bacterial growth in Petri dishes depending on hand wash techniques, clip here.


I'd like to see results taken from your heads with loads of bacteria on loo brush head spread all over the place. You take loo brush out of holder rinse it in sea water then straight on to walls.
 
Anders_P42 said:
I watched an episode of myth busters where they tested hand hygiene after visiting toilet. There was big difference in bacterial growth in Petri dishes depending on hand wash techniques, clip here.


I'd like to see results taken from your heads with loads of bacteria on loo brush head spread all over the place. You take loo brush out of holder rinse it in sea water then straight on to walls.
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sadly you never will see the results

I am not sure you saw the use of the disinfectant spray

please feel free to describe other regimes
 
Nice video but no real direction for using this facility.

Other boats I have been on seem more pro active.

i.e. "Don't even think about standing up and weeing in here"

" Wedge yourself well in before starting"

" Shut cocks after use "

" Drips matter"

" CCTV in operation "
 
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Not watched the video, but the idea of using the bog brush on the bulkheads does sound pretty nasty.

I use a j-cloth for that, starting with the sink and other surfaces, moving ever closer to the bog, finishing up with the seat and then the upper parts of the bowl itself and then the cloth gets binned. Admittedly I don't clean as often as Dylan seems to, or I would get through an awful lot of cloths.

On the question of water sources, I'm lucky enough to have hot running water and one of those pull-out shower taps, so that's what I use. Again water usage not a problem since I'm not cleaning six times a day.

Pete
 
prv said:
Not watched the video, but the idea of using the bog brush on the bulkheads does sound pretty nasty.

I use a j-cloth for that, starting with the sink and other surfaces, moving ever closer to the bog, finishing up with the seat and then the upper parts of the bowl itself and then the cloth gets binned. Admittedly I don't clean as often as Dylan seems to, or I would get through an awful lot of cloths.

On the question of water sources, I'm lucky enough to have hot running water and one of those pull-out shower taps, so that's what I use. Again water usage not a problem since I'm not cleaning six times a day.

Pete
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thanks Pete,

what do you use as a bog cleaning chemical?

and how old is your bog brush?

the one I found on Harmony was of great vintage

that went in the bin before you could blink

would you use this j cloth and freshwater method on a long trip?

Dylan

I love it when forumites take the time to write without taking the time to watch the film

it makes the discussions so much more interesting

I am not surprised at the reaction to this cleaning method.... reminds me of the tin can thread
 
How sterile is fresh poo? Think about where it's just been. It's water based so easily got rid of. If you get rid of it quickly there's no time for bacteria to grow?

A brush is a brush. Just because one is called a toilet brush doesn't in itself make it unclean. Unless it's been next to the toilet for a while of course but thats not what Dylan is doing here.

All this talk about flushing loos makes me wonder what the Hamble must be like on a Bank Holiday Monday.
 
If I had to clean the loo after my sailing friends or had to tell them to leave it as they found it, they would not be asked again.
What the guys are saying about your 'questionable' method of dipping in and out with the brush Dylan, is right. Don't do it !
I Enjoy tour films very much :-)
 
dylanwinter said:
no visible scale on my bogs....and the bowl has been well sprayed with the disinfectant

I think that the faecal contamination would be vanishingly small

I assume the navy had a procedure for its one bog boats

does anyone know how they did it on their smaller vessels
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You made a comment in the video about no cross contamination in the water in the bowl but you are wrong. The design / nature of the valves in a sea toilet ensures that there always is some cross contamination between in and out, noty to mention that the sea cocks arent usually that far apart anyway, giving potential for the inlet to suck in some diluted outlet fluid.

My boat is blessed with a shower built into the bog. Its an excellent featrure - come the end of a cruise with a few blokes on board, I take a shower on board and the water from that sprays everywhere over the khazi. Spary into the bowl as well and soon everything is spotless again.
 
Dylan, has your wife seen this video? Does she approve. Do you clean the bathroom at home using the same method? This is not really cleaning. The insides of a sea toilet are always disgusting when taken apart, even when properly pumped every time?

But pure entertainment as always!
 
garvellachs said:
Dylan, has your wife seen this video? Does she approve. Do you clean the bathroom at home using the same method? This is not really cleaning. The insides of a sea toilet are always disgusting when taken apart, even when properly pumped every time?

But pure entertainment as always!
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of course she has

and I have dismantled lots of bogs

so I know the difference between clean and the dirty side

one of the things that bothers me about some of the posts above is that they imply that the loo gets cleaned just once a day

some said that it got cleaned after they had finished the passage

does this mean that you blokes would not disassemble the bog until it actually stops working - surely you guys would dismantle/inspect/clean the inside as part of the autumn layup.

I am a boarding school boy - I have seen how quickly bogs get disgusting when being intensively used.

I would love to hear from Pete at Halcyon and other delivery skippers

- with four of five blokes using one bog is once every 24 hours enough, who does it, how is it done, do you use fresh water or do you bring a bucket of salt water through from the cockpit?

Dylan
 
I would disagree that the risk of faecal contamination using your method of using loo water is very small, the Jabsco because of its dual purpose action pump, will produce cross contamination unless the O ring seal is perfect...unlikely.

When we clean the loo, the inner bowl and room are always washed seperately, the bowl with similar brush to yours and loo cleaner and the room and exterior of loo with fresh water and flash from a bucket. No risk of cross contamination.

Recently took our Jabsco out, stripped it and cleaned it, the grunge by way of seat fixings, under the unit and round the rear fixing bolts was revolting and very possibly dangerous to health, and we thought it was clean!
 
Vara said:
I would disagree that the risk of faecal contamination using your method of using loo water is very small, the Jabsco because of its dual purpose action pump, will produce cross contamination unless the O ring seal is perfect...unlikely.

When we clean the loo, the inner bowl and room are always washed seperately, the bowl with similar brush to yours and loo cleaner and the room and exterior of loo with fresh water and flash from a bucket. No risk of cross contamination.

Recently took our Jabsco out, stripped it and cleaned it, the grunge by way of seat fixings, under the unit and round the rear fixing bolts was revolting and very possibly dangerous to health, and we thought it was clean!
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You make a good point about the o ring

however, I would say that it is running in a smooth bore and is designed to work as efficiently as possible and at the temperatures noramally found on a sea toilet

if you look at the dirt on the dirty side is starts at the bottom of the stroke.

In the film you can see that I start on the bowl and clean that thoroughly using lots of pumps of water and lots of spray

that will coat the bore of the up stroke with sterilised salt water solution

The tiny amount of cross contamination will be overwhelmed and sterilised by the spray.

Flash seems a bit tame to be using on a hard working sea toilet. Other more modern, more powerful, more effective cleaning agents are available in every pound shop in every high street.

we are going around in boiling tin can circles here.

I think it would make an interesting subject for PBO

two identical yachts sailing together with the same size crew on them for a week - say four blokes using one bog

bog one would be cleaned once a day with flash

and the other cleaned three or four times a day using the bog water and duke nukem spray

I know which bog would smell better and look shinier an hour before being cleaned again
 
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