The Ocean Race (ex-Volvo, ex-Whitbread)

[Wansworth]

Eleventh hour racing with hole returns to port

 

[capnsensible]

Eleventh hour racing with hole returns to port

Guyot doinged it just after the start and has retired. Was on port tack.

The on board camera doesn't flatter the 11th hour skipper.....

 

[Wansworth]

Basic error on both sides……where were the lookouts

 

[Laser310]

seems like they are going to repair the boat and rejoin the race - which is good.

i think there is a rule 14 issue for S - but in the end they will be not be found to have broken RRS 14. A problem with these boats is that when it's "clear that the other boat is not keeping clear".., it might already be too late to avoid a collision.

the question of redress is a bit trickier. To be granted redress requires that the damage be "through no fault of their own". It doesn't necessarily follow that if they are cleared under rule 14, they are entitled to redress. "No fault" is a high hurdle, and i'm not sure 11th hour clears it.

there is also the question of what redress they get. Often it's average points of previous races - which I gather would let 11th hour win the event. But, another possibility is a credit for the time they loose while repairing the boat - which would at least preserve the appearance of having the race decided on the water.

I think that in the end what will happen is what's "right" for the event.., and not necessarily what's right under the rules.

so: no rule 14 violation.., and yes they get redress.

 

[capnsensible]

Nearly all over! Last two almost there plus in port race Saturday?

What's next???

 

[dunedin]

Nearly all over! Last two almost there plus in port race Saturday?

What's next???

And the jury decisions which will decide the result, sadly, rather than on the water.

But looking forward, the move to open 60s seems to have worked in terms of speed and reliability - but not in terms of entries. 5 boats isn’t sustainable. Will this be the end or is their still an opportunity for a reincarnation?

 

[ridgy]

The on board camera doesn't flatter the 11th hour skipper.....

Why do you say that? He could have turned away sooner but who would have thought that another boat would be so incompetent as to do that at this level? The tradition of dipping at the last second always makes these things difficult.

 

[capnsensible]

Why do you say that? He could have turned away sooner but who would have thought that another boat would be so incompetent as to do that at this level? The tradition of dipping at the last second always makes these things difficult.

He lost his rag when cool direction was required.

 

[pcranness]

He lost his rag when cool direction was required.

Charlie Enright has spent the best part of 6 months sailing around the world, after many years preparation and probably about to fulfil his dream of winning one of the most demanding ocean races in the world. There is the impact on sponsors, millions of pounds of investment, and the dreams of the rest of his crew all destroyed in an incident that should never have happened.

Exactly how do you expect him to behave?

When ashore he was unbelivebaly magnanimous towards the skipper of Guyot and did his best to console him. Within in hours he was focussed an bringing the team together to fix the boat in an unbelievable time frame

Given the stakes and the situation he behaved amazingly

 

[capnsensible]

Charlie Enright has spent the best part of 6 months sailing around the world, after many years preparation and probably about to fulfil his dream of winning one of the most demanding ocean races in the world. There is the impact on sponsors, millions of pounds of investment, and the dreams of the rest of his crew all destroyed in an incident that should never have happened.

Exactly how do you expect him to behave?

When ashore he was unbelivebaly magnanimous towards the skipper of Guyot and did his best to console him. Within in hours he was focussed an bringing the team together to fix the boat in an unbelievable time frame

Given the stakes and the situation he behaved amazingly

He flapped. Good skippers don't, no matter what the pressure.

 

[jlavery]

Now Holcim lowering the tone with a specious (IMO) protest.

Multiple protests to decide The Ocean Race 2023 >> Scuttlebutt Sailing News

 

[dunedin]

11th Hour Racing given redress and hence winners of the Ocean Race

They think it’s all over - it is now.

 

[DFL1010]

Holcim's protest ruled invalid.

Can't remember, was it Holcim or Guyot who borrowed 11th Hour's spare stick after their dismasting? If Holcim, that'd be one way to say thank you...