The most expensive screw I've ever paid for.

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The most expensive screw I\'ve ever paid for.

.... no no, not that sort of screw. I mean the little blighters that hold the plate over the raw water impellor. On our boat, I have to sit at the bottom of the cockpit locker, and work through the wiring to the alternator.

A few days ago, I undertook a pre-season change of the impellor, dropped one of the said screws and its gone to the bilges forever. The engine runs OK, and the water pumps perfectly well, but there is a slight drip which also ends up in my nice clean dry bilges, and anyway its not right, like it should be.

Several phone calls to engineers, spares suppliers, dealers etc have failed to identify the required size (need to know part numbers, blah blah), the complication being that the face plate has Volvo Penta stamped on it, even though its a Johnson pump on a Thornycroft engine !! (Dont ask me why!).

So today I find a VP dealer who says he can identify the screw size from the old impellor - which is on the boat, so off I set. True to his word, they have the screws - they are simply 2BA cheeseheads, solid brass etc - so I ask for half a dozen. "That'll be £3.60 Sir" "You're having a Cow-n-calf!" says I. Apparently not - they are 60pence each.

Okay, not a lot of money really, but if I add on about 10 quids worth of petrol, I don't plan to drop too many more into the bilges.

On a more serious point, I would not want to do the job anywhere other than with the boat perfectly still and level, so changing the impellor as a precaution rather than waiting for it to break is very much the right approach, as we all know.

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Re: The most expensive screw I\'ve ever paid for.

Nick

You need a speedseal, see <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.speedseal.com/Pages/fitting.html> here for details. </A>

I had an impellor go half way across Lyme Bay and a job which would take 10 minutes whilst alongside took over an hour at sea. I was dreading loosing one of the screws. I fitted a speedseal as soon as we returned.

Tom

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Re: The most expensive screw I\'ve ever paid for.

I had to change an impeller this weekend as it started spinning on the shaft last week - common yanmar fault. I had trouble tightening the little bolt up behind the flywheel on a 1GM10, just because of position. Had considered speed seal but just reading their site it has put me off -

All bolts 316 SS, wouldn't that cause mad problems on a bronze pump? I say bronze as that is what the bolts and cover are made from.

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Re: The most expensive screw I\'ve ever paid for.

An alternative to a Speedseal is to braise wings (or better still O’s) onto the screw heads. Then you don’t need a screwdriver and you can put a cord through the O to stop loosing it!

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Re: The most expensive screw I\'ve ever paid for.

Sorted mine with brass wing nuts. Then just drilled the wings and put a cable tie through them all in case they decided to unscrew themselves when I'm not looking, and last year in a force four off Cromer I had to use them in anger as the impellor broke up, worked a treat, did the job in under 10 mins, mind you I didn't retrieve the side cutters used to cut the cable ties till we got into Lowestoft, but then you can't have it all can you.

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When I was at sea ....

we received annual stores on one ship ...... amongst the stores was a small box. Opened it and found 12 assorted wood screws ..... yep just 12 all different size wood screws.

Literally one screw per month !! It wouldn't have been so bad had they been all the same size !!!!


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Re: When I was at sea ....

Zuez was closed, and we went all round Africa to get to the gulf. We used to pick up stores off Cape Town, part of the order being 72 DOZEN eggs. Whether the SA suppliers couldn't count, or they didn't know what a dozen was, we ended up with 72 eggs - TOTAL ! !

That started all sorts of little sayings -

"Rare as eggs"

"How do you spell eggs?"
"E-G-G-F-S"
"There's no 'F' in eggs"
"That's what I've been trying to tell you"

Etc, Etc

We survived though. Great what you can achieve on curry and Double Diamond (Indian crew)

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Re: The most expensive screw I\'ve ever paid for.

Yup .., got one on the Yanmar3GM .. I ordered a couple of spare knurled screws with it .. JIC

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Re: When I was at sea ....

Nah! I lived on the curry & DD for 6 months. Didn't get many visitors to my cabin, though!

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Re: When I was at sea ....

Bet it was'nt curried eggs though.. as I lad I had a mate who delivered eggs to the Ormidale in Brodick, suddenly the order leaped as the landlord started selling egg mayonaise sandwiches .. one night in the glasshouse at the back I was feart tae licht up (being a smoker in these days) in case the conservatory exploded. Shortly afterwards the eggs order resumed normal proportions as the nice but niffy gastronomic delight was removed from the menu!

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Re: The most expensive screw I\'ve ever paid for.

Nick,

I'm pretty sure that there was a spare water pump/impellor in the spares left on Moondance when you purchased! - under that lovely large bed in the aft cabin. Take a look!

But I agree - it was a masocist (??) who designed and put the water pump/impellor under the alternator by all those wires and left a small cubby hole to work through to change it.

See you in Cherbourg!

Steve

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Re: When I was at sea ....

Nige
Thats just in case the steam capstan comes loose on its mountings. Now you got the screws to hold it down<s>.

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Re: When I was at sea ....

Don't know about the original, but well past my "best before" date anyway!

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Would it?

All bolts 316 SS, wouldn't that cause mad problems on a bronze pump

I've got a bronze prop on a s/steel shaft which seems to work well enough without fizzing away like Alka Seltzer.

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Re: The most expensive screw I\'ve ever paid for.

Thanks Tome,

Jimi has mentioned these to me too, but we've not got around to a 'live' demo.

Although the access problems will remain of course, I can see that the Speedseel will make the job a slightly-less-pain-in-the-Aris than it was before.

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Re: The most expensive screw I\'ve ever paid for.

Bought 2 X 4" Jubilee clips from Volvo dealer at weeked................£18+
They were £2.20 each at local chadlery, but they were out of stock.

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