The most beautiful yacht ever.

Minn said:
It's Beken's famous picture of the Fife schooner SUZANNE. What fascinates me is that, iirc, Fox says it was taken off Cowes - gybing that lot in a hurry would have taken exemplary skill and co-ordination.

I only wish today's super-rich had equally good taste in toys.
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Take a look at the schooner Elena. Some of today's super rich do have such taste.
 
Woodlouse said:
Sorry, but that isn't a Bristol Channel pilot cutter.
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A Westerman 51 is to a British Channel Pilot Cutter in the same way a BMW Mini is to the original?

But if Dyarchy looks like a 'big' version of a little boat, then it has to be a big Vertue not a big Twister. There has to be some connection in their lineage.
 
TimBennet said:
A Westerman 51 is to a British Channel Pilot Cutter in the same way a BMW Mini is to the original?

But if Dyarchy looks like a 'big' version of a little boat, then it has to be a big Vertue not a big Twister. There has to be some connection in their lineage.
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Yes - the designer. The lines of Dyarchy were scaled down for the Vertue. In my view neither is actually beautiful though both have a purposeful chunkiness
 
TimBennet said:
A Westerman 51 is to a British Channel Pilot Cutter in the same way a BMW Mini is to the original?

But if Dyarchy looks like a 'big' version of a little boat, then it has to be a big Vertue not a big Twister. There has to be some connection in their lineage.
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Andrillot was design 15 in 1936. Dyarchy was design 37 in 1939. I prefer Andrillot!
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jamesjermain said:
Yes - the designer. The lines of Dyarchy were scaled down for the Vertue. In my view neither is actually beautiful though both have a purposeful chunkiness
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I know, that's why I said they were of the same lineage and not the Twister. But as 'Vertue' was the name given to the sister boats to Andrillot after hull number 5 in 1939, and Dyarchy was two designs later than Andrillot in 1938, it's fair to describe Dyarchy as a big Vertue (the name by which most people know the Andrillot / Vertue design).

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Edit: I can see we're cross posting!
 
TimBennet said:
A Westerman 51 is to a British Channel Pilot Cutter in the same way a BMW Mini is to the original?

But if Dyarchy looks like a 'big' version of a little boat, then it has to be a big Vertue not a big Twister. There has to be some connection in their lineage.
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I was just being pedantic about the pilot cutter. I continue to be miffed at the Bristol Channel pilot cutter Facebook page that rarely contains any info or pictures of the actual remaining pilot cutters.

As to the dyarchy/ twister reference, I was just hinting at the spoon bow, cut away forefoot and raked transom and the fact that twisterken is a former Twister owner. I never wanted to imply one was a copy of the other.
 
Woodlouse said:
I was just being pedantic about the pilot cutter. I continue to be miffed at the Bristol Channel pilot cutter Facebook page that rarely contains any info or pictures of the actual remaining pilot cutters.

As to the dyarchy/ twister reference, I was just hinting at the spoon bow, cut away forefoot and raked transom and the fact that twisterken is a former Twister owner. I never wanted to imply one was a copy of the other.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...83072.15981.136279206416514&type=1&permPage=1

How could one not like that sheer line?

BTW did folks scroll through the photos?

I also love the way that armchairs have been molded into the salon settees.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...83072.15981.136279206416514&type=1&permPage=1
 
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Most beautiful? Probably Zaca:

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Given the choice I'd rather have a Danish Hajkutter
 
Sybarite said:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...83072.15981.136279206416514&type=1&permPage=1

How could one not like that sheer line?

BTW did folks scroll through the photos?

I also love the way that armchairs have been molded into the salon settees.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...83072.15981.136279206416514&type=1&permPage=1
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I agree she is a splendid boat, and she was fantastically well designed, thought out and set up in her build, her fit out and her rig. I don't consider her to be the prettiest boat ever built though. Not by a long shot. But she has certainly earned her place in yacht design history.
 
Twister_Ken said:
Somewhere I've got a recent pic of a boat like that racing in a Med classics event. The pile of halyards on deck is so big, the helmsman must have had difficulty seeing over it. I'll see if I can find the pic tomorrow.
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Here are the halyards I mentioned. Bit too much to stuff into a halyard bag.

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And here's Thendara - another candidate

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michaelchapman said:
OK. She has never put a Pilot onto a ship.
But she has carried a pilot and tried to put that pilot onto a ship (the QM2) - (and I admit, not in the Bristol Channel nor its approaches).
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Is that when she was newly built and she raced the newly rebuilt marguerite T out to the ship in Canada? In the version of that story I heard the race was fixed for marguerite to win because she was the only one carrying a pilot.
 
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