The MoBo I bought has old spirit hob ...

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The Spirit hob has a couple of bits missing - so instead of trying to source them ... I reckon its cheaper to replace the whole with a Camping Gaz unit ...

The likelihood of cooking on board that often is rare - so the small self contained camping unit should be fine for the occasional cuppa.
 
Hello Nigel Another boat? Good luck with a Mobo. Anyway I would urge you try to stick with spirit stove. Certainly much safer than gas especially those camping type cookers. When I was doing Fire and safety inspoection for boats in our marina that kind of cooker would never be allowed on board. What is missing from spirit stove? Lets have a photo of spirit stove. I love em. ol'will
 
William_H said:
Hello Nigel Another boat? Good luck with a Mobo. Anyway I would urge you try to stick with spirit stove. Certainly much safer than gas especially those camping type cookers. When I was doing Fire and safety inspoection for boats in our marina that kind of cooker would never be allowed on board. What is missing from spirit stove? Lets have a photo of spirit stove. I love em. ol'will
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I've never liked spirit stoves ... no real reason - just never have.

I've always had gas ...... I like the control range of gas ... but as said - its rarely going to be used ... such that I may even not bother.

I will take some photos next time on board ... I have the book for it .. thinks its Dolmetic ? But anyway .. no rush.

Enjoy ? I'm having a ball with the boat ... OK - like every older boat - few things need sorting ... but she's sweet and worth every penny I paid. In fact we reckon she's worth more - especially once I get the small things sorted.


My phone seems to have seriously amplified the engine sound ... its nowhere near that loud !
 
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Refueler said:
The Spirit hob has a couple of bits missing - so instead of trying to source them ... I reckon its cheaper to replace the whole with a Camping Gaz unit ...

The likelihood of cooking on board that often is rare - so the small self contained camping unit should be fine for the occasional cuppa.
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We switched to spirit after using cartridge gas type. Because they kept leaking and we had the occasional fire. Sounds dramatic maybe un planned burning, all easily controlled but to common for our liking.

However if you sitting your old domestic PM me I may take it off your hands for spares.
 
Poignard said:
I removed our gas installation 9 years ago and fitted a 2-burner Origo (Dometic) stove.

We have perfectly happy with it.
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Origo are hard to find these days. Are there alternatives you can buy ?

I have an Origo 2 burner that I might sell on a month or so if anyone is interested.
 
I used a cartridge type to replace my old cooker but I did buy a more expensive one with a flame failure device.
 
William_H said:
… much safer than gas especially those camping type cookers. … that kind of cooker would never be allowed on board …
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Curious to understand why “that type” should never be allowed onboard and what type you actually mean? The reason I ask is that I will be cruising in a small boat with no cooker.
 
RunAgroundHard said:
Curious to understand why “that type” should never be allowed onboard and what type you actually mean? The reason I ask is that I will be cruising in a small boat with no cooker.
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FWIW - I have one on my little boat and this year the (double) seal around the canister leaked the first few times I tried to use it. It's just a couple of o-rings, not held very tight by a flimsy clamp. A dab of silicon grease has sorted it out, but has made me think seriously about safer options - if the weather had been more lively I wouldn't have heard the leak.
 
onesea said:
We switched to spirit after using cartridge gas type. Because they kept leaking and we had the occasional fire. Sounds dramatic maybe un planned burning, all easily controlled but to common for our liking.

However if you sitting your old domestic PM me I may take it off your hands for spares.
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I'm in Latvia ... bit far to sort out to you !!
 
RunAgroundHard said:
Curious to understand why “that type” should never be allowed onboard and what type you actually mean? The reason I ask is that I will be cruising in a small boat with no cooker.
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The requirements for our club fire and safety is that the gas sytem should have a certificate of safety issued by a licensed gas fitter. The 'type" I referred to I believe Nigel is considering is the all in one camping type with gas cartridge and single burner. I think the objection is the risk of gas leak from cartridge attach or of simple flame failure. Gas of course sinks into bottom of boat and susceptible to ignition and explosion. A bit like petrol fumes.
We seem to have a decent boat fire several times per season in West oz typically 30 ft mobo I do not know if they are caused by gas leak but mostly on diesel power boats so likely gas. ol'will Sticking my neck out on a subject I am not familiar with.
 
RunAgroundHard said:
Curious to understand why “that type” should never be allowed onboard and what type you actually mean? The reason I ask is that I will be cruising in a small boat with no cooker.
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They do fail quite a bit, I personally know of three that failed and produced flames in an undesirable place.
Due to the orientation of the gas cannister if anything at all goes wrong liquid gas is in the pipes. As said, the fitting is a bit poor as well and occasionally fails in a way I could only describe as fireball. It is dangerous for most people who may panic or not know what to do, but easily sorted with a fire blanket then take outside to cool off, and remove the cannister.
There are also differing quality versions. The larger Campingaz version is much better than the £5 version in most camping stores.

I've used them on several boats and for camping and have no issue continuing to do so, but I wouldn't describe them as safe and would definitely never leave them while on.

edited to add - they are also hopeless in winter. As the gas evaporates it cools to the point it stops evaporating so often even with a full can of gas it won't light due to lack of gas.
 
I've yet to see a Trangia be an effective solution to anything other that weighing down a pack. They're hopeless for cooking and nowhere near stable enough for use on a boat (or often even a field!). Aluminium is also now widely considered a poor choice for cookware as it leaches into the food, which isn't safe.

And if all that weren't enough, they stink!
 
lustyd said:
They do fail quite a bit, I personally know of three that failed and produced flames in an undesirable place.
Due to the orientation of the gas cannister if anything at all goes wrong liquid gas is in the pipes. As said, the fitting is a bit poor as well and occasionally fails in a way I could only describe as fireball. It is dangerous for most people who may panic or not know what to do, but easily sorted with a fire blanket then take outside to cool off, and remove the cannister.
There are also differing quality versions. The larger Campingaz version is much better than the £5 version in most camping stores.

I've used them on several boats and for camping and have no issue continuing to do so, but I wouldn't describe them as safe and would definitely never leave them while on.

edited to add - they are also hopeless in winter. As the gas evaporates it cools to the point it stops evaporating so often even with a full can of gas it won't light due to lack of gas.
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The one I was looking at - has the adaptor for Propane - and that means an upright canister separate to the stove.

I would be reluctant to use the Butane cans where they lay on side and screw into the stove direct ... not only because its now relying on the 'liquid' to vaporise - but also that Butane is no good in low temp ...

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As can be seen one of the 'hobs' has the top burner plate missing ..... and of course there are no pan holders at all.

But surprise - you can see the full manual sitting on the stove in first photo ...
 
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I have not tried but some remove the burner plate.

Apparently helps with quicker heating? You can tell us which works best.

Panholders presently I am on copper wire bent to shape. It works. Rectangular frame with additional center peice.

Alcohol is as cheap, don't use meths it smells.
Presently I use bioethanol said to have least smell.

Having recently been converted from gas. All my previous boats have had gas and I was quite happy with it.

Present boat my hands was forced there's no sensible space for a gas locker.

I am quite happy with alcohol 12 months on. Not certain I would want gas, except for the oven

You know how much alcohol you have left. No need to run out and find there's non available.

Far better than the cartridge cookers on many accounts. You can make a brew in winter when doing maintenance.

Just do not fill the alcohol containers until they are so cool you can touch by hand, and fill on deck.
 
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