The Dinorwic Centaur

[Seajet]

Well I have to say that's one big thing in favour of the outboard and well plan; meths smells a helluva lot better than diesel !

Though one can do without the meths smell too in a perfect world, if anyone has a less than bulletproof stomach it will be the last straw; whether you can ever get rid of the diesel smell even with a boat filling with rain, is another matter.

 

[Iliade]

You will have an outboard, thereby compromising your safety by carrying large quantities of explosive fluid about.

In the unlikely event that the gas system is kippered, why not get something like this http://www.optimusstoves.com/seen/o...connect/optimus-outdoor-kocher/optimus-hiker/ which can run on practically any flammable liquid and will boil a kettle or saturate a boat in no time flat.

I had an early one which I used when climbing until it was purloined at the Three Brothers Campsoak. It was a truly awesome piece of kit: Stable, powerful & noisy!

 

[dylanwinter]

You will have an outboard, thereby compromising your safety by carrying large quantities of explosive fluid about.

In the unlikely event that the gas system is kippered, why not get something like this http://www.optimusstoves.com/seen/o...connect/optimus-outdoor-kocher/optimus-hiker/ which can run on practically any flammable liquid and will boil a kettle or saturate a boat in no time flat.

I had an early one which I used when climbing until it was purloined at the Three Brothers Campsoak. It was a truly awesome piece of kit: Stable, powerful & noisy!

you are correct

and petrol storage is a problem on any boat with an outboard - even a tiny two stroke for the dink

The racing boys (especially in North America) use outboards in wells for passage making - they store the fuel in vented stern lockers

I am hoping that the gas stove will not be kippered so that I can put it back when I sell the boat

but I shall use the Origos

flammable sinking vapour under pressure makes me even more nervous than petrol

having said that I used gas for five years on the slug and lived - although for winter sailing it was a royal pain

D

 

[Seajet]

One thing about fuel lockers; mine is alongside the well so draining vapour at the bottom is not an option, unless I wanted it going into the cabin; I have a tannoy vent ( the closeable model, still can't believe people are happy with anything else ) in the locker lid and that seems to work fine as an extractor with the wind blowing across it, there's never any smell of petrol.

I painted over the clear centre so as not to have sunlight beaming onto the fuel tank.

Years ago at Earls Court boatshow I was thinking I'd be pro-active about ventilating the fuel locker and bought an expensive solar vent, with a nicad so it worked at night too.

I specifically asked if it was ' spark safe ' and was assured it was.

After a year the bearing went and it was noisy throughout the boat, then it packed up altogether - naturally the makers went bust, it's no longer available.

I gave it to a friend who is an excellent aircraft electrician to see if he could fix it; his verdict was that it was the most spark UNSAFE thing he'd ever seen and he couldn't believe I'd got away with using it on a petrol locker !

So I'm lucky not to be in orbit - I have checked with all solar vents now on the market, none that I know of are spark safe.

Just a tip.

 

[ghostlymoron]

I've never used an Origo. Does it boil a kettle as quickly as Butane? Gas is sooo convenient isn't it and you don't hear of many (any) accidents considering how many people use it.

 

[dylanwinter]

I've never used an Origo. Does it boil a kettle as quickly as Butane? Gas is sooo convenient isn't it and you don't hear of many (any) accidents considering how many people use it.

it is slow that is for sure

7 minutes to boil a pint of water

this is me using it in the mark 1 galley

lighting it is easier with a long nose kitchen jobbie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBXpVrL3lwg

but I like slow things - hence the subject of this thread

the mark 2 galley is a much slicker affair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2kjZ_NhVzQ

 

[TSB240]

Just a little update for you Dylan

I walked past Anna Sira at the weekend.

I lied about her being water tight.

On closer inspection there is water leaking out of the interior via the hull outlet fittings.

Not through the seacocks but passing between the hull and thruhull fittings........

Sorry no further info to add as I was proccupied with a maiden sail in on our new to us boat.... View attachment 38886

Taking wellies with me next time so I can give the bulkhead a poke.

 

[dylanwinter]

Just a little update for you Dylan

I walked past Anna Sira at the weekend.

I lied about her being water tight.

On closer inspection there is water leaking out of the interior via the hull outlet fittings.

Not through the seacocks but passing between the hull and thruhull fittings........

Sorry no further info to add as I was proccupied with a maiden sail in on our new to us boat.... View attachment 38886

Taking wellies with me next time so I can give the bulkhead a poke.

the leaky skin fittings I can live with as long as they are from the engine

epoxy man from Wessex resins can fill those up

skin fittings from the bog would be a shame

cockpit drains no probs as they can also be filled

a poke of the woodwork would be great

what a shame the hatch is open so the boat will continue to deteriorate

d

 

[TSB240]

the leaky skin fittings I can live with as long as they are from the engine

epoxy man from Wessex resins can fill those up

skin fittings from the bog would be a shame

cockpit drains no probs as they can also be filled

a poke of the woodwork would be great

what a shame the hatch is open so the boat will continue to deteriorate

d

I shut hatch 3 weeks ago! No washboards though

 

[Heckler]

Just a little update for you Dylan

I walked past Anna Sira at the weekend.

I lied about her being water tight.

On closer inspection there is water leaking out of the interior via the hull outlet fittings.

Not through the seacocks but passing between the hull and thruhull fittings........

Sorry no further info to add as I was proccupied with a maiden sail in on our new to us boat.... View attachment 38886

Taking wellies with me next time so I can give the bulkhead a poke.

Radar! dont tell me, hot and cold water? a sit down? Mam will be happy!
Stu

 

[Twister_Ken]

Radar! dont tell me, hot and cold water? a sit down? Mam will be happy!
Stu

Seems to be a job lot of sleeping bags stored on top of the boom, though!

 

[TSB240]

Radar! dont tell me, hot and cold water? a sit down? Mam will be happy!
Stu

Stu

Only Cold! Warm would be a luxury but we have a kettle and shared bodily warmth........

Sit down now has a door!

Mam has blown air heating and a proper Galley and is very happy with the 7foot long bow cabin and room for parents and grand children elswhere.
Sir is happy saw 7.3knots through the water without trying with too much rag... Cant wait to see what she does with the big coloured rag.

Bit underpowered only 10horse diesel donk but it gives us 6 knots and a lot more MPL

Ken

Sleeping bags are are so passe. Us marina dwellers have Duvets and sheets you know.

Storage of the cockpit tent and spinnaker pole was essential during the recent windy bits.

Hope the Dents are being sorted..... Stu....

 

[Elessar]

As to the smell, once the oil, diesel etc. has soaked into the wood there is IMHO almost no way to get rid of it, on my current boat during the refit I had to dispose of the entire galley and nav station wood work and replace with new.
I would also be concerned with the condition of any structural wood work with that amount of water inside.

Cats piss stink remover from a pet shop. The enzyme gets rid of all bio smells including diesel and holding tank leaks.