That sinking feeling

SteveA said:
One of our club members set off from Barrow for Douglas yesterday and this happened https://www.facebook.com/MCA/videos...STExMDAzOTE4NTcwNzY4OToxODcwMjIzNjg2MzU1ODg4/
All of the rescue services were terrific and the crew are safe.
Herbie, a trimaran, sank.
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Saw this on FB yesterday, shame, but I'm glad nobody got hurt.

Anyone know what happens to the "wreck" now? Are Herbie's owners/insurers responsible for clearing it up or is it typically ok to leave it there to tangle up trawlers nets etc? Or does the government run a free 'small wreck' clear up service? Or something else?
 
Mark-1 said:
Saw this on FB yesterday, shame, but I'm glad nobody got hurt.

Anyone know what happens to the "wreck" now? Are Herbie's owners/insurers responsible for clearing it up or is it typically ok to leave it there to tangle up trawlers nets etc? Or does the government run a free 'small wreck' clear up service? Or something else?
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Short answer is I, personally, don't know. But thanks for asking the question over which I have often pondered.

Well done all involved, and good to hear all safe and sound.
 
Mark-1 said:
Anyone know what happens to the "wreck" now? Are Herbie's owners/insurers responsible for clearing it up or is it typically ok to leave it there to tangle up trawlers nets etc? Or does the government run a free 'small wreck' clear up service? Or something else?
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Insurance generally covers "removal of wreck", but that's mostly applicable to harbours (where the harbour authority requires you to stop blocking their channel) and shorelines (where the local council wants you to stop cluttering up the beach). I don't think any effort is generally made or expected to recover a vessel that sinks in open water.

Pete
 
Glad the folks are safe.

The MCA FB article suggests that the rescued crew were safe and sound on the wind farm boat. I would have thought that the safest way of completing the rescue would have been for the wind farm boat to return to port, as well as the lowest cost. Helicopter transfer is a high risk activity so why undertake it if it is not required?
 
BlowingOldBoots said:
Glad the folks are safe.

The MCA FB article suggests that the rescued crew were safe and sound on the wind farm boat. I would have thought that the safest way of completing the rescue would have been for the wind farm boat to return to port, as well as the lowest cost. Helicopter transfer is a high risk activity so why undertake it if it is not required?
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I wondered that too - assuming no injuries or hypothermia then it's got to be an increased risk for the rescued crewmembers but perhaps that risk is very small and the training good for both windfarm crew and helicopter crew?
 
prv said:
Insurance generally covers "removal of wreck", but that's mostly applicable to harbours (where the harbour authority requires you to stop blocking their channel) and shorelines (where the local council wants you to stop cluttering up the beach). I don't think any effort is generally made or expected to recover a vessel that sinks in open water.

Pete
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'Disposal' of a vessel in deep water. Seriously, this is something I've heard suggested on a few occasions. Also you get to see videos of ships purposely sunk to create artificial reefs for wildlife.

At what point does this become marine vandalism rather than waste disposal or providing homes to baby fish? I'm pretty sure it'll be a way to dispose of some of our nastiest GRP yachts in the near future but are there any legal restrictions on it? Remember that dumping nuclear waste at sea was banned, and its arguably the safest thing to do with it...

Gentlemen, your thoughts please.
 
langstonelayabout said:
'Disposal' of a vessel in deep water. Seriously, this is something I've heard suggested on a few occasions. Also you get to see videos of ships purposely sunk to create artificial reefs for wildlife.

At what point does this become marine vandalism rather than waste disposal or providing homes to baby fish? I'm pretty sure it'll be a way to dispose of some of our nastiest GRP yachts in the near future but are there any legal restrictions on it? Remember that dumping nuclear waste at sea was banned, and its arguably the safest thing to do with it...

Gentlemen, your thoughts please.
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It’s been discussed before. Disposal of GRP at sea will result in the introduction of small plastic particles as the GRP breaks down. Shore disposal options exist where the ground up GRP is a product used in other processes. However, this is not available yet commercially. Cutting up and paying for landfill disposal is probably still the most economic way.
 
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