matt13
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Lucky nobody was hurt.... https://yachtharbour.com/news/tender-loses-control-and-crashes-into-yacht-928
Tender crashes into super yacht in Ibiza
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jfm
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Crikey
Glad no-one injured, luckily. I wonder what happened. I don't think you have killcords on big diesel tenders like that, but perhaps you should. Looks like Porroig anchorage SW Ibiza. Will be an interesting read if the report is published (LGB is Bermuda flagged)
Glad no-one injured, luckily. I wonder what happened. I don't think you have killcords on big diesel tenders like that, but perhaps you should. Looks like Porroig anchorage SW Ibiza. Will be an interesting read if the report is published (LGB is Bermuda flagged)
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Deleted User YDKXO
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That raises a big question in my mind because when I've questioned salesmen at boat shows about the impact resistance of the oversized hull windows that virtually all manufacturers use now, I am always told that the windows are as strong as the hull. I would be very surprised, if the RIB had hit a grp part of the hull, whether it would have punctured the hull quite so spectacularly. Anyone else thinking the same?
And what do you do if you do break one of these huge hull windows? A grp hole can be fairly easily bodged to make it watertight but where are you going to get a replacement hull window from?
And what do you do if you do break one of these huge hull windows? A grp hole can be fairly easily bodged to make it watertight but where are you going to get a replacement hull window from?
rwilson
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Seems like another kill cord related accident and as already said, thankfully no one was hurt - I guess the two crew members will get their marching orders very soon!
Lon nan Gruagach
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Love me tender, love me Bleu.....
Anthony
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To be fair only one person can wear the kill cord, it was the responsibility of whoever was on the helm, the other person may have been unaware (although obviously if they saw it was not in use they should have said something too).
Lucky that hole didnt extend below the water line...
Ants
jfm
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Not sure I agree Deleted User. history shows these windows are good, unless LGB's tender smacks into you. I don't think I want to give up the delightful view just on the off chance this sort of thing happens, and anyway (a) if LGB tender hit the unglazed GRP it would still have pierced I think and (b) the boat has not sunk.
They need a new window from Besenzoni, and skilled fitters, so that Custom Line is offline for the whole of this summer, sadly. That will have spoiled some holidays
I don't get the killcord comments. That is a big diesel tender and I don't think they have killcords any more than other 30 foot diesel boats have killcords. Any 30 foot diesel boaters on here have killcords?
prv
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Yes, as it happens. I'm currently involved, through work, on this thing:
31 feet, two big Volvo diesels, two kill-cords on the side of the helmsman's seat to go round his leg.
Not from quite the same world as Le Grand Bleu, I admit
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MapisM
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Just curious M, did you make the same question during your visit in Ameglia? I'm sure the answer would have been different.
Those folks, who unquestionably know a thing or three about boatbuilding, refused to build hull windows for years - though I guess this might have been a bit easier for them compared to other mainstream builders, considering that their discerning clients are less fashion-driven than most.
Besides, even now that the market eventually forced them to accept hull windows, just look at how they build them: forget frameless glued glasses, their windows remind more of a bank entrance than of those (admittedly nicer) flush Custom Line things.
And on top of all that, the bigger the boats they built - up to the ocean going steel line - the smaller the hull windows!
Bottom line, 'fiuaskme, I'd rather trust what these folks actually build based on engineering evaluations, than what boat show salesmen say based on their own (obviously very different!) reasons... :encouragement:
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MapisM
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That ain't just luck, actually: afaik glass below w/l is not allowed by certification bodies.
Which also says something about glass being "as strong as the hull"...
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Deleted User YDKXO
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No I never raised the subject with SL but I have no doubt that if SL fitted oversized hull windows to their boats they would be bullet proof
. What somewhat alarms me is that the window that failed in the Custom Line looks very similar to the window in my boat. Not surprising really considering Custom Line is a Ferretti brand. I have often wondered what would happen if a careless helmsman clouted the window in my boat with, say, the corner of his bathing platform when reversing into his berth next door. The problem, as jfm says, is that such an accident is potentially a season breaker
Anthony
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I'm curious about the windows now, would a boat with big windows like that not carry a way to cover it like some sheets of ply, a lot of silicone and some lengths of 2x2 to be able to clamp it over the hole? The window is pretty close to the water line, I can imagine water getting in in rough conditions (thinking it may not get broken near a handy port).
On a much smaller scale a similar setup is used on yachts in case of a deck hatch failure.
Ants
On a much smaller scale a similar setup is used on yachts in case of a deck hatch failure.
Ants
MapisM
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TBH, I wouldn't bet one dime that your windows could withstand such event, the problem with glass being that its flexibility is pretty close to zero, and once it reaches its breaking point, it's gone.
On the positive side, I can't think of a situation where, as Anthony pointed out, you could suffer such damage while cruising, hence with the risk of flooding the interiors and potentially sink the boat.
Ok, maybe in the event of a big wave smashing and flexing the hull enough to crack the glass, but that's a very extreme scenario, and not the type of conditions you would want to be in with a pleasure boat, regardless of hull windows.
Bottom line, yes, a potential season breaker event, but unlikely to be catastrophic.
All that said, I wouldn't rule out a solid good boat (as yours surely is) just because of her hull windows.
And I'd love a SL for many other reasons, aside from their stronger windows...!
DPH
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Here is a pic from inside after the accident
z1ppy
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What a mess! talk about getting out of bet the wrong side!
Our last 30 ft diesel rib did have a kill cord.
Our last 30 ft diesel rib did have a kill cord.
Beachcoma
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Feadship Savannah?
Promarine11
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Accidents are rarely one rather a list of faults and or actions. Kill cords certainly prevent serious accidents often seen when small craft propel their occupants into the water very often in busy moored areas. Professional crew know the risks from personal experience most often wear them and also rarely proceed at 30knots? close to anchored craft. You'll often in the 'med' incur the wrath if not a Maritime Guardia Civil visit from most all anchored boats when operating a craft dangerously close to moored craft.
Thankfully no one was injured.
Thankfully no one was injured.
EME
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M/Y Savannah -- so must be
jfm
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Yup. Aside from her huge windows that are loosely depicted in Feadship's ad campaign---->
...she also has stunning underwater lights by Lumishore (take a bow EME) each of which basically consists on an underwater window with an LED module mounted behind. Shown here with her lights in Antibes completely overcoming her neighbour m/y Solandge which doesn't have Lumishores--->
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Ah I see. Its no longer good enough to have the biggest boat, you've got to have the brightest u/w lights too. Do you have u/w lights contests in Antibes?
