Temple and Hurley closures

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Both locks closed from 1st November so we'll be stuck inbetween. Anyone know of short term moorings downstream with power that we could use until December? Still want to go boating even in the cold! Your thoughts and recommendations appreciated
 
Cashbuyer said:
Both locks closed from 1st November so we'll be stuck inbetween. Anyone know of short term moorings downstream with power that we could use until December? Still want to go boating even in the cold! Your thoughts and recommendations appreciated
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I guess there are plenty - does strike me that this is an unfortunate coincidence of work that could have been scheduled differently...
 
jecuk said:
I guess there are plenty - does strike me that this is an unfortunate coincidence of work that could have been scheduled differently...
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It happens every year - or so it seems!
Both Hurley and Temple were closed last year, and I think maybe the year before; if it wasn't Marlow.

Very few boats move in the "off" season anyway and it's inevitable if the river's not closed for maintenance, then the weather makes up for it by being in flood......

If memory serves - and that's a challenge nowadays - I haven't been able to go any real distance for three years 'twixt December and March.

If you think about it -

1. When can EA do lock maintenance - if not in the winter months - you'd surely be fed up if it was done in the spring or autumn? Rest assure they'd rather do the nasty wet bits when it's warmer.

2. Don't forget that it's costly and wasteful of time to move heavy plant and equipment around, so it makes sense to do as many works in a given area all at one time.

Although it's highly irritating to be locked in (sorry) for any distance cruising, I do think that EA do quite a good job on their planning.

You'll just have to wait until 18th. December.
 
TrueBlue said:
It happens every year - or so it seems!
Both Hurley and Temple were closed last year, and I think maybe the year before; if it wasn't Marlow.

Very few boats move in the "off" season anyway and it's inevitable if the river's not closed for maintenance, then the weather makes up for it by being in flood......

If memory serves - and that's a challenge nowadays - I haven't been able to go any real distance for three years 'twixt December and March.

If you think about it -

1. When can EA do lock maintenance - if not in the winter months - you'd surely be fed up if it was done in the spring or autumn? Rest assure they'd rather do the nasty wet bits when it's warmer.

2. Don't forget that it's costly and wasteful of time to move heavy plant and equipment around, so it makes sense to do as many works in a given area all at one time.

Although it's highly irritating to be locked in (sorry) for any distance cruising, I do think that EA do quite a good job on their planning.

You'll just have to wait until 18th. December.
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Is it really that much more efficient to do two locks on the same reach? Of course it needs to be done in the winter however I wonder if it could have been done in a way to not lock in such a large marina as Harleyford (and a little one at Temple) so you can at least go one direction for most of the time. We frequently use the boat in November and this is quite a pain - be to the weir stream and back this year!! Naturally no matter what they do someone will be unhappy - just happens to be me this time.
 
Spoke to those who know and apparently Temple has been left out of the work programme for the last year or two to try and reduce the impact of closures but there is work needed that must be done now. Hurley was already on the schedule for this year and they're avoiding a closure again there next year by delivering two projects at once to minimise impact locally and maximise efficiency for having the people and equipment there.
 
boatone said:
Spoke to those who know and apparently Temple has been left out of the work programme for the last year or two to try and reduce the impact of closures but there is work needed that must be done now. Hurley was already on the schedule for this year and they're avoiding a closure again there next year by delivering two projects at once to minimise impact locally and maximise efficiency for having the people and equipment there.
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There you see, EA are trying to look after boaters.

Present pain for future gain?

After all how many trips do folk make in the off season? I struggle to do a couple of trips; not by design more by weather conditions. Winter boating is fun, but not so much so when you have to chip the ice of the lines at each lock.
 
Is this forum all about petty point scoring and 'one upmanship'?

I just asked for some friendly advice - all you seem to want to do is out do each other with your opinions

What a shame

By the way, it's rarely icey in November...
 
Cashbuyer said:
Is this forum all about petty point scoring and 'one upmanship'?

I just asked for some friendly advice - all you seem to want to do is out do each other with your opinions

What a shame

By the way, it's rarely icey in November...
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Many of the Forum folk now know each other and like to banter part of this is to cross swords in a seemingly aggressive way. In reality they are the best of friends and rarely take genuine umbrage with each other. The other thing noticeable in the Forum is Thread Drift. Just has this thread has now drifted.
Don't be phased by it.
 
Cashbuyer said:
Is this forum all about petty point scoring and 'one upmanship'?

I just asked for some friendly advice - all you seem to want to do is out do each other with your opinions

What a shamel

By the way, it's rarely icey in November...
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Your response really surprises me. You asked a specific question and I, at least, did provide you with a couple of options - one of which you appear to have decided is expensive. I actually overlooked a third option - DB Marine at Cookham. For some reason you did not explain you specified a need for power which limits your options. Many of the locks have moorings which may be free (available) at this time of year but may not have power? How far down are you prepared to consider? What are you prepared to pay or were you hoping for a benevolent angel?

Others have chosen to comment about the closures themselves which doesn't surprise me, but I find it difficult to identify any "petty point scoring or one-upmanship".
 
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Cashbuyer said:
Is this forum all about petty point scoring and 'one upmanship'?

I just asked for some friendly advice - all you seem to want to do is out do each other with your opinions

What a shame

By the way, it's rarely icey in November...
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Where the blazes is this petty points scoring that has cause you so much ire?

These fora are read by many folks, and sometimes it's appropriate to extend the topic slightly - to perhaps answer as yet unasked questions - that has happened to some extent in this thread.

JEC UK is a recent migrant from further downstream who haven't suffered from total closure for a while, so his comments needed enlightening.

It's not often that I support EA, but in the case of winter maintenance they do a pretty good scheduling job. It's just unfortunate that this year Hurley and Temple users are landlocked (!) again....

In any event, Cashbuyer, nobody's had a "go" at you have they?

As it happens in this case B1, Byron, JEC and myself are all known to each other by sight and I and not disposed to attack or upstage any of them - anyway I would expect a bo**ocking directly from them if I do step out of line.

If you look at the number of posts by some of "us" you'll see that at least two have been around this forum since The Thames Conservancy and have seen it all before.


Pah!
 
I thought it was a discussion, and actually not even really much by way of thread drift given the OPs point and concern re the closures.

There wasn't any point scoring - just a helpful discussion about why the closures are necessary.
 
byron said:
If girls grew Bristols on their backs I would have taken up ballroom dancing.
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Whoa Byron,don't get too excited......or they'll have to increase your medication again. I think our petulant friend meant 'Back off girls'. Must be a long time since you were mistaken for a lassie! :D
 
It's a generation issue, and the way that technology moves that means five or ten years' difference at most.

Poster A asks a bare but seemingly straightforward question,
Poster B comes back with details as a "starter for 10",
Poster A comes back and raises an issue not covered in his initial question, perhaps with the implication that B should have pointed that out.

Others then jump in with perhaps sideways details - which progress further sideways, perhaps with some banter between them.

Poster A then takes the hump for some reason (not understandable by B and XYZ) and an amount of fur starts to fly.

The point missed by A - and it happens quite a lot on other YBW fora as well - is that folks who have been around (look at the number of posts counter), know that posters other than A, read these threads and the background information also helps them.

Related information is also useful (one hopes) to EA who do watch what's going on here.

The generation issue, for me, is that questions are asked, the questioner wants a direct answer - almost Yes or No, and then gets grumpy when "his personal question" gets (for him) an information overload.

It can become destructive, as i have seen members, trying to help, have become depressed with quite acrimonious exchanges and have ceased making posts. Quite often these have been people with in depth knowledge and their absence is a total loss.


In this thread, Mr. Cashbuyer has not been criticised or abused - so I don't see that he has an issue, but more importantly some interesting snippets of information have come to light for general readers and those entrapped between Temple and Hurley.

So everyone gains???

That's what these fora do. it's the way they work.

re: Pheran - I thought he meant Pack of girls - ganging up on him; surely not.
 
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