DaCostaGreene
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If I owned a proper boat, I would have something like sticky back flooring put down, it is nice bright colours, red, blue, yellow, green, etc... Not Tek-Dek, Teak, Treadmaster or plain GRP
Tek-dek = boat lino
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KevB
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Matt,
If I had your boat I'd be too snobby to fit tek dek, only teak would do.
Tek Dek, better than bare grp/carpet on any boat, ok for your average sub 40 footer as a cheaper substitute for teak. Would look out of place on anything much bigger. Probably acceptable on the flybridge of bigger boats, this is where I imagine Tek Dek has potential
If I had your boat I'd be too snobby to fit tek dek, only teak would do.
Tek Dek, better than bare grp/carpet on any boat, ok for your average sub 40 footer as a cheaper substitute for teak. Would look out of place on anything much bigger. Probably acceptable on the flybridge of bigger boats, this is where I imagine Tek Dek has potential
Nautorius
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Good point Kev,
The flybridge is a perfect example of where it might work as others rarely see up there and so can not comment on that nasty plastic stuff (that is if the average guy can tell the difference). It is also quite a harsh environment with a lot of heat, sun, and moisture trapped below the tonneau.
Cheers
Paul
The flybridge is a perfect example of where it might work as others rarely see up there and so can not comment on that nasty plastic stuff (that is if the average guy can tell the difference). It is also quite a harsh environment with a lot of heat, sun, and moisture trapped below the tonneau.
Cheers
Paul
mjf
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Re: synthetic Teak - incredibly expensive??
This thread is indeed a co-incidence.
I picked up two samples at recent shows one of Tek Dek and the other Advanced Marine Decking. (Aikona)
I want to deck the water-side balcony of my home in teaky stuff so its really rather boaty, but easier to keep clean than the real McCoy. Better than plane old ceramic tiles anyway.
I reckon the TekDek looks a bit linoish when you have it in your hand but looks ok when down whilst the other stuff is actually rather fab – has even got bits in it that look 100% authentic. All the peeps I have shown it too thinks its wood mounted onto plastic! It's that good.
Has anyone actually done this at home – ie use fake teak in a non-boat environment. How does it look and ware etc.?
I have been quoted £75/m2 for the Aikona.
This thread is indeed a co-incidence.
I picked up two samples at recent shows one of Tek Dek and the other Advanced Marine Decking. (Aikona)
I want to deck the water-side balcony of my home in teaky stuff so its really rather boaty, but easier to keep clean than the real McCoy. Better than plane old ceramic tiles anyway.
I reckon the TekDek looks a bit linoish when you have it in your hand but looks ok when down whilst the other stuff is actually rather fab – has even got bits in it that look 100% authentic. All the peeps I have shown it too thinks its wood mounted onto plastic! It's that good.
Has anyone actually done this at home – ie use fake teak in a non-boat environment. How does it look and ware etc.?
I have been quoted £75/m2 for the Aikona.
tcm
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snobby tcm
Ah, but if i *was* actually snobby i wouldn't even speak to you! So that proves I'm not snobby.
ahem, anyway, I don't know any owner of a sizeable flybridge yacht who would be happy with tek dek. I think they'd prefer the real thing or not at all on the fly - white surface is cooler to the touch, for example, like on mjf's p38 where bits of teak on the fly might be a pain.
Teakwise, Magnum had teak that seemed fine and he even had that ripped up and replaced. It's gotta be teak and teak has gotta be perfect. The money nearly doesn't matter.
Ah, but if i *was* actually snobby i wouldn't even speak to you! So that proves I'm not snobby.
ahem, anyway, I don't know any owner of a sizeable flybridge yacht who would be happy with tek dek. I think they'd prefer the real thing or not at all on the fly - white surface is cooler to the touch, for example, like on mjf's p38 where bits of teak on the fly might be a pain.
Teakwise, Magnum had teak that seemed fine and he even had that ripped up and replaced. It's gotta be teak and teak has gotta be perfect. The money nearly doesn't matter.
DaCostaGreene
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Re: synthetic Teak difference
I used to rep for Aikona and Flexiteek, for the whole of the UK. The price for Aikona is excluding the adhesives, so realistically you will more than likely pay around £90.00 per square metre, each plank has to be joined individually so there is another pvc bonding adhesive which needs to go off before you can move the planks. The question is can you afford a 1mm veneer, lay the floor and then drop something on it for it to get damaged?? Especially at £90 + vat. Wouldn't a 5mm extrusion be better, this way you get 5mm to damage and not worry, whereas a veneer gets damaged and shows up quite viciously aswell
I used to rep for Aikona and Flexiteek, for the whole of the UK. The price for Aikona is excluding the adhesives, so realistically you will more than likely pay around £90.00 per square metre, each plank has to be joined individually so there is another pvc bonding adhesive which needs to go off before you can move the planks. The question is can you afford a 1mm veneer, lay the floor and then drop something on it for it to get damaged?? Especially at £90 + vat. Wouldn't a 5mm extrusion be better, this way you get 5mm to damage and not worry, whereas a veneer gets damaged and shows up quite viciously aswell
PCUK
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Re: No, no, no! Not faux wood.
Dave, Teak decking is false, unless it's on a teak vessel!
The only "real" decking on plastic boats is plastic decking.
Dave, Teak decking is false, unless it's on a teak vessel!
The only "real" decking on plastic boats is plastic decking.
PCUK
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Re: No, no, no! Not faux wood.
What about Dek-King?
What about Dek-King?
DaCostaGreene
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Re: No, no, no! Not faux wood.
Dek-King is Tek-Dek sold under license to Wilks Rubber - It's all the same - We have the monopoly on this one!!
Dek-King is Tek-Dek sold under license to Wilks Rubber - It's all the same - We have the monopoly on this one!!
tcm
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pretend teak
Harumph! You'll need plastic chairs, pretend plants, a nylon shirt, stayprest tousers and a unbreakable champagne glass of Cava.
Harumph! You'll need plastic chairs, pretend plants, a nylon shirt, stayprest tousers and a unbreakable champagne glass of Cava.
KevB
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Re: pretend teak
Oi!!! I like Cava /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Don't tell me it's not real Champers?
Oi!!! I like Cava /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Don't tell me it's not real Champers?
tcm
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fake teak on the flybridge
i'm not sure how you make that one out. We are learning a lot about how the marina industry perceives its clients - apparently as a bunch of short-cutting short-sighted poverty-stricken make-do and menders.
People with big boats don't go for fake teak in the same way as they don't go for fake rolexes, or fake diamonds or fake anything very much important to them, and for most boat owners the boat is indeed important.
"Good news dear, i got a diamond ring for you twice as big for half the price of a real one, and seeing as how you aren't a diamond merchant and hence won't instantly know the difference I bought it!" This doesn't happen.
i'm not sure how you make that one out. We are learning a lot about how the marina industry perceives its clients - apparently as a bunch of short-cutting short-sighted poverty-stricken make-do and menders.
People with big boats don't go for fake teak in the same way as they don't go for fake rolexes, or fake diamonds or fake anything very much important to them, and for most boat owners the boat is indeed important.
"Good news dear, i got a diamond ring for you twice as big for half the price of a real one, and seeing as how you aren't a diamond merchant and hence won't instantly know the difference I bought it!" This doesn't happen.
DaCostaGreene
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Re: fake teak on the flybridge
What about Tek-Dek on a displacement Catamaran??? One that doesn't sink!!
What about Tek-Dek on a displacement Catamaran??? One that doesn't sink!!
tcm
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Ah, but if you had that coloured lino on a deck where teak was expected to be - then by definition it wouldn't be a proper boat, would it? It'd be a pile of junk, presumably also with the smallest engine options, no heating, plastic windows and badly maintained throughout. Cheap tho, i suppose.
tcm
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Re: fake teak on the flybridge
ah weight is important on a catamaran - best would be no teak at all, i suppose.
ah weight is important on a catamaran - best would be no teak at all, i suppose.
DaCostaGreene
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Does anything I say get passed the dark side? - Me thinks your a TD secret admirer, who wishes at the back of your mind somewhere that you could have a whole 60ft boat covered with fake teak!!
duncan
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tcm wouldn't be seen dead on a mere 60ft boat.............
Phill
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Re: fake teak on the flybridge
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i'm not sure how you make that one out. We are learning a lot about how the marina industry perceives its clients - apparently as a bunch of short-cutting short-sighted poverty-stricken make-do and menders.
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Sounds like me /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
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i'm not sure how you make that one out. We are learning a lot about how the marina industry perceives its clients - apparently as a bunch of short-cutting short-sighted poverty-stricken make-do and menders.
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Sounds like me /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
tcm
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Re: \"get passed the dark side\"
don't quite understand wot you mean? You mean sailing boats = dark side?
I do have a boat bit bigger than 60 feet which has real teak, although not up the sides or on foredeck as i think that's just silly/hard work whether real or pretend unless it really does have walkways like a ship and loads of cleaning staff. The sunseekers are a bit silly in this regard imho - little slivery walkways of teak look poor.
Another teaky aspect that some boat types fail to recognise (esp brit, tho others too) is that on bigger boats the teak should be wider strips, not the same narrow strips. Sunseekers esp are poor on this - a zillion narrow strips makes the boat seem smaller that it is.
Of course, if loads of new boats and all existing boats suddenly decided to rip up their teak decks and replace with plastic, well then er, not sure. I suppose i might do the same if i was a fashion slave? But there again, I'm probably not - the silverpainted boats are currently all the rage and i reckon they will look tatty soon and be a right pain.
don't quite understand wot you mean? You mean sailing boats = dark side?
I do have a boat bit bigger than 60 feet which has real teak, although not up the sides or on foredeck as i think that's just silly/hard work whether real or pretend unless it really does have walkways like a ship and loads of cleaning staff. The sunseekers are a bit silly in this regard imho - little slivery walkways of teak look poor.
Another teaky aspect that some boat types fail to recognise (esp brit, tho others too) is that on bigger boats the teak should be wider strips, not the same narrow strips. Sunseekers esp are poor on this - a zillion narrow strips makes the boat seem smaller that it is.
Of course, if loads of new boats and all existing boats suddenly decided to rip up their teak decks and replace with plastic, well then er, not sure. I suppose i might do the same if i was a fashion slave? But there again, I'm probably not - the silverpainted boats are currently all the rage and i reckon they will look tatty soon and be a right pain.
tcm
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Re: fake teak on the flybridge
well, me too.
But of course if I found that others were treating me as though they *knew* i was short-sighted and tightfisted that wouldn't do at all. Complicated....
well, me too.
But of course if I found that others were treating me as though they *knew* i was short-sighted and tightfisted that wouldn't do at all. Complicated....