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Thanks!

Might at well stick to talking to machines.. at least they do understand me...

Excuse me for a moment, I'll sit in the corner pretending to be a duck....

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Re: About Pwllhelli

Ah, that's my hobby.

First you have to spell it correctly, Pwllheli.

If you are English, you pronounce it P'thelly. That's because English does not have an equivalent of the Welsh 'll' sound, which is made in the back of the throat with a bit of spit in the right place. Bit difficult to describe in words, but imagine you are trying to remove a small fly that has just flown into your mouth and tried to go down you throat. Then the easy bit, add 'helly' on the end.

Lastly, Pwll means pool, and heli means salty or brackish water. So Pwllheli means something like 'salty pool'. In that salty pool my boat resides.

Now try pronouncing Uwchmynydd, Bwlchtocyn, and Blaenplwyf, all places nearby.

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Now that's useful information!

Being Dutch, I'm very used to 'remove small flies'. 'Scheveningen' was and is never a problem for me...

Perhaps I would be better in Welch or Caelic. Now let's see if there's and online course.......

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(The boys - from Wilmslow, Cheshire and Hale, Greater Manchester - were treated in hospital, but it is thought none were injured. )

C’mon, I do hope your navigation is better than your geography; Wilmslow Cheshire is 35/40 miles away from Liverpool Merseyside??
However of all the places I have sailed most of the sailing prats seem to congregate around Abersoch. It’s almost as bad as the Solent, now there goes the cat and just look at those pigeons. !!!!!


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Pwllheli pronunciation

The easiest way of describing it is to listen to it.
<A target="_blank" HREF=http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/sounds/pwllheli.wav>Click Here</A>
Saying it is another matter!!

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Re: About Pwllhelli

It gets a lot worse than that. Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantisiliogogogoch is a real place in Wales. My favourite bit is the 4 consecutive 'l's in the middle. Notice though that it has one of the 2 Welsh words you now know in it, ie. 'pwll'. It is commonly abbreviated to Llanfairpwll.

In English it means 'St Mary's Church in the Hollow of the White Hazel near a Rapid Whirlpool and the Church of St. Tysilio near the Red Cave'. It would probably be just as hard to say if it was translated into Dutch.

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Re: About Pwllhelli

We could be here for days trying to do phonetic pronunciations of those places. For the LL sound, block off your hard pallet with your tongue and let the air escape around the sides between tongue and cheek ( seriously). Extravert mentioned the key ingredient- appropriate amounts of spittle in the right place.

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My navigation is terrible, but it wasn't me who mentioned Wilmslow!

BTW, I love North Wales; I used to spend a lot of time up there because I had mates who lived near Porthmadog. My experiences there - and at Borth Y Gest - led to my original remarks about, ahem, North Western England City dwellers.

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What about that place in Wales with the longest place name? Ends with gogogogth or something like that.

This thread is getting curioser and curioser...




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Re: About Pwllhelli

Great place names, and then the ministry of new Welsh words comes up with classics like ambwlans ( ambulance)

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Now let's see if there's and online course.......

Aha now you're on to my teritory!!

For a simple html version you can follow a course for beginners<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.menai.ac.uk/clicclic/> here. </A>

A fancier flash version will be arriving shortly.


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Re: About Pwllhelli

You mean Llanfairpwllgyngyllgogerychrwndrobwllantisiliogogoch? Or something.

I think it's generally referred to as Llanfair PG. However, it's on Anglesea (Yns Mon) where I believe they eat their own young. I must stop now, as the hole I am digging is getting deeper and deeper. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Re: About Pwllhelli

That's the fella.

I'll chuck you down a cushion so at least you'll have something comfy to sit on in your hole. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif


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Oh JHR ("but it may be connected to the fact that a lot of the people who visit the place (a) come from a Major English City on the River Mersey, with two football teams, (b) have a tendency to say "calm down" at regular intervals")
Now my point was, that they came from,!! hang on I'm not even a scouser why should I defened them???
I also spent most of my youth around this area, I still visit but no where near as often, Had many a breakfast at anchore off the islands.
Little Ship!!

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Of course we in Wales all know that the word Ambwlans is actually the word used in medieval times for the horse drawn cart that was used to collect plague victims to take them into a place of isolation.

During the English invasion in the 13th century the English found that they did not have an equivalent word for the carts they used to transport their wounded soldiers so they took the word for themselves and adapted it to suit their simpler vocal chords...

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Re: About Pwllhelli

North Wales is a great place. I was brought up there and spent most of my time rock climbing. Nearly moved back there to sail, but bought a chart of the area and decided the bottom was to close to the surface in a lot of places. Used to sail on the Menai Straits in dinghies. Also jumped off the Menai Bridge on the end of a 150ft rope, just to get back to the original thread of irresponsible actions.

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Re: About Pwllhelli

You're avin a larff /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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Re: About Pwllhelli

I love a bit of banter.
It looks like this is the place for it. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Re: About Pwllhelli

What aspects of your children are you expecting your Etap 26 to replace? So nearly went for Conwy as a place to keep a boat.

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