Taylors stove

stevemeakin

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Having recently purchased a Taylors stove I'm now wondering whether I need a heater as well or whether the stove can be left on to heat the cabin? Is there any reason why we can't fire up the stove and leave it on, say over night?

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I wouldn't.
First, burning any hydrcarbon will produce moisture as well as CO and CO2. A gas alarm might give confidence you won't get toxic poisoning or suffocate, but you will be left with a very damp cabin.
Second, as the pressure in the paraffin tank drops there is a risk of flare-up.
For the same reason I would never leave a paraffin heater on all night.
 
I wouldn't dream of leaving mine on overnight. A proper heater will have an external flue to vent the combustion products but if I were to shut my boat up and lie down with the stove burning all those molecules would build up in the cabin and long before the oxygen depletion extinguished the flame I would be dead. (The same would apply with a gas stove of course.) I think leaving a proper heater with flue on all night is probably OK but I would definitely have a CO alarm.
 
Don't leave it on overnight. Toxic fumes etc. I have both a 030 stove and an old 068 heater. Whilst they are both fantastic at doing what they do, I don't run both at the same time, and I'm considering selling the heater and putting in a coal stove for overnight heat. The 068 is slightly less effective than a damp candle for heating when compared to coal stoves I have known.
 
Can you elaborate on the 068 heater as I have one I have not yet fitted? My 030 cooker heats the boat well enough, so would the 068 be any worse than the cooker?
 
The problem I've found with running the heater over night is that the jet gradually becomes blocked, andslows down to the point where it goes out, cools down and leaks paraffin everywhere. I haven'tfound pressure dropto be a problem,but you could have mistaken the need for a jet clean with needfor more pressure. One solution is to set an alarm for every three or four hours and prick it! another is to get another blanket and put up with a few minutes of cold in the morning. But I wouldn't even consider leaving an un-flued hob on for exactly the reasons already mentioned: CO/Co2 andcondensation in that order of priority!

Scarboroughsloop, I think seagreen is comparing the paraffin heater to a solid fuel stove, in which case the stove wins on efficiency and heat output, but they have drawbacks by way of space and flue requirements!
 
Tobble is right about the differences between coal and paraffin.

Well, the 068 i've inherited with the boat is basically just a burner in a can. It needs a flue, and most of the heat from it seems to go up the flue, but maybe it's because the whole thing needs a clean. I've also found the heater been blown out by strong (F8) gust while at anchor, and filling the cabin with explosive paraffin vapour. Luckily it smells and is a thick grey colour so you know when it happens. You have to keep the pressure maintained and the burner running at a certain level just to stay hot enough to keep going. It is also a bit awkward to light in its present location, but that's another matter. I like it, and it works - it just doesn't work well enough for me.

The hob on a taylors can be left running with the same caveats - don't fall asleep with it on. I've found a slowly heating kettle is a good excuse for this especially if you're having a mugwash at the end of the day.
 
I use a Taylors 079D and find it's fine, even overnight.
It's a drip-feed rather than pressure of course, and that also makes it quieter.
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Runs on diesel/paraffin/even white spirit!

Ron

Hey what's happened to the picture?
 
I tried running the Taylors heater overnight in our boat at the end of the season and nearly did for my two crew. With hindsight it was very foolish to run it overnight - I've since read the instructions which say not to leave it burning unattended. Its hard to check it in one's sleep.

Ours uses a drip feed, rather than pressure.

I woke (thank heavens) to a cabin full of thick smoke and a much larger flame than there should have been at the burner, casting a bright light. I closed off the fuel supply,ventilated the cabin, and waited. The flame went out after 15 mins plus, and when the bright glow subsided, I could see the entire bottom half of the stainless chimney was glowing red. Clearly a chimney fire. That took half an hour to go out (of its own accord). One crew didn't wake (until the morning), the other went back to sleep happy that I was dealing with it. Nothing like a few drinks to ensure a good night's sleep!

The deck was covered in soot.

I will be examining the Taylors closely in a few weeks, and cleaning the burner and the chimney. I should have done this before lighting it (for the second time in my ownership of the boat - it kept going out the first time).

I have to say that I simply love a solid fuel stove. On winter weekends on Mirelle the dry warmth is wonderful, though Mirelle himself usually wakes me at 03.00-04.00hrs when he puts on more coal.
 
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How is Mirelle?
Tell him he is missed... I don't get over to the Wooden Boat forum very often.

[/ QUOTE ] I think he's well - I haven't seen him for a little while, but will probably do so soon. He lifted out very early (for him) at the end of last season. I know he's been working very hard indeed.

The good news is he is likely to be Orwell based next season, so will be seen sailing much more at weekends, with his family. The top of the Deben is not the place to keep a boat for weekend sailing on the sea, especially with an engine of modest HP to punch the tide down to the bar.

I have told him he's missed on the forum, and will do so again.
 
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