jerrytug
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Hello I`m just about to crew one of these on a longish trip,any body here got experience how to get the best out of her? Thanks Jerry
Tanton 43 freedom cat ketch-any tips?
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snowleopard
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Tip No 1: when walking forward, don't reach for the shrouds to steady yourself 
I've never seen a ketch version. There was a schooner moored next to me here earlier in the day.
I've not sailed one but am familiar with unstayed rigs so a couple of tips on them - don't be afraid to let the boom(s) out beyond square on a broad reach, aim to keep laminar flow going. Once the relative wind angle reaches 150-160° you can then haul back to square. Running by the lee is less of a worry and if you want to do it for a short while rather than gybing you can just let the boom out further.
I've never seen a ketch version. There was a schooner moored next to me here earlier in the day.
I've not sailed one but am familiar with unstayed rigs so a couple of tips on them - don't be afraid to let the boom(s) out beyond square on a broad reach, aim to keep laminar flow going. Once the relative wind angle reaches 150-160° you can then haul back to square. Running by the lee is less of a worry and if you want to do it for a short while rather than gybing you can just let the boom out further.
jerrytug
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Thanks for the warning about the shrouds...wonder where I hang my dhobi and flags? It's called a ketch but you could call it a schooner,if you felt like it I reckon,bend the rules a bit,it's all a bit of fun what?
Twister_Ken
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You could have some fun rigging a washing line between the mastheads!
snowleopard
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According to the traditional definition, two equal masts makes a schooner but I guess they can call it what they like.
Poignard
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You could ask Chris Edwards, enthusiastic owner of 'Dragonfly', who posted in this thread.
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236110&highlight=dragonfly
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236110&highlight=dragonfly
jamesjermain
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Chris, the 40+ft Freedom rigged boat I saw in the Sound on Sunday had an after mast very slightly shorter that the fore so I suppose she was a ketch, might this have been the boat you refered to. I looked at her quite closely because I was pondering the same question - ketch or schooner?
chrisedwards
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I agree with Snowleopard - you can let the sails act for far longer as wings rather than bags by letting the for'd one sail considerably by the lee. The Freedom owners website has an article by Gary Hoyt, no less, explaining how he won all the races.
The freedom masts are of equal length but the aft one is buried deeper in the hull. The word "sketch" is bandied around in certain circles.
Eventually - when money allows, I intend to have identical sails on both masts. Dragonfly will then boast 700 square feet of sail on 28 ft boat! I cant wait!
The freedom masts are of equal length but the aft one is buried deeper in the hull. The word "sketch" is bandied around in certain circles.
Eventually - when money allows, I intend to have identical sails on both masts. Dragonfly will then boast 700 square feet of sail on 28 ft boat! I cant wait!
jerrytug
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I\m on board now,leaving Horta shortly. One point is,with the unstayed masts,there is a LOT of sideways stress on the mast foot to keel joint,I wouldn\t call it Achilles heel but a big piece of engineering which needs checking for movement. We have been strengthening by adding big bolts etc. Same goes,mast collar where it goes through deck. Fingers crossed Jerry
chrisedwards
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Not sure about this. I've had six boats with unstayed masts and sailed on scores of others. The stress is far less than that imposed by stays. Many boats with unstayed masts have very little or even no (eg.Kingfisher) extra reinforcing at deck partners. Of course the partners/mast must not move. The mast foot to keel fitting takes even less stress and is easily attached to solid leel base. Now lets talk about chainplates......
