Tall ship Astrid lost in Oysterhaven Cork today

[Finbar]

The Dutch sail training ship Astrid went on the rocks in Oysterhaven today, all 30 on board were taken off by lifeboats. It's not clear yet why she went ashore, it was blowing about a five. Perhaps engine failure on a lee shore. See here for details: http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0724/464385-tall-ship-astrid/
First bit of real breeze after weeks of calm settled weather.

 

[Tintin]

Is it my imagination, but hasn;t she been in strife more than once in the past few years?

 

[prv]

Is it my imagination, but hasn;t she been in strife more than once in the past few years?

The name certainly rings a bell in my head in connection with accidents, though I can't think exactly what.

Pete

 

[Budgieboy]

She was in Brighton when I left for Fecamp on the 12th , sad news , beautiful ship ...........

 

[Koeketiene]

 

[Alfie168]

Thats very sad to lose her, but no casualties is a big plus.

Tim

 

[savageseadog]

Is one of those Irish persons holding a lamp?

 

[Vega1447]

Is one of those Irish persons holding a lamp?

Ah now....

 

[lpdsn]

Is one of those Irish persons holding a lamp?

It's a special dark one - only visible in daylight.

 

[savageseadog]

It's a special dark one - only visible in daylight.

It's the morning after of course

 

[Vega1447]

It's the morning after of course

@Savage Not all that fond of the Aryans (Eireanns)? Were we unkind to you or yours diddums?

A bit OT wrt the thread topic IMO.

 

[Clyde_Wanderer]

@Savage Not all that fond of the Aryans (Eireanns)? Were we unkind to you or yours diddums?

A bit OT wrt the thread topic IMO.

Me thinks he is refering to the misconception that the Irish shone lights to giude German planes to britian during the war, which as it turns out was very untrue.
C_W

PS which Lough Derg is it, Donegal or the other?

 

[Vega1447]

Me thinks he is refering to the misconception that the Irish shone lights to giude German planes to britian during the war, which as it turns out was very untrue.
C_W

PS which Lough Derg is it, Donegal or the other?

The "wide bit in the R Shannon" - a decent sized lake.

 

[Neil]

Perhaps engine failure on a lee shore.
First bit of real breeze after weeks of calm settled weather

That's what it said on the news...........

 

[alant]

That's what it said on the news...........

Our local BBC South, reported, that Astrid was on a cruise from Southampton to Cherbourg.

Carp navigation then, to end up near Kinsale!

 

[prv]

Our local BBC South, reported, that Astrid was on a cruise from Southampton to Cherbourg.

Carp navigation then, to end up near Kinsale!

Do you always cruise in a dead-straight line from departure port to final destination? By your measure my navigation is even worse, as I once went from Yarmouth to Southampton via Cherbourg!

They will probably have just looked up her voyage schedule from a web site, and those were the first and last ports of a particular leg. If nothing else, it would be a bit pointless to join a ship for a one-day voyage which is all it would take to go direct.

Pete

 

[Erik C]

More pics.

http://avaxnews.net/fact/Tall_Ship_Astrid_Sinks_after_Hitting_Rocks.html

 

[Vega1447]

She seems to have been motoring close to a lee shore - this http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=263977&d=1374682520
AIS track was posted on boards.ie.

Is it unfair to say that the Master should have kept well outside the Sovereigns and sailed rather than motored to Kinsale?

If the engine had failed on the final run in to Kinsale he would have had plenty of room to anchor.

 

[Koeketiene]

 

[prv]

Is it unfair to say that the Master should have kept well outside the Sovereigns and sailed rather than motored to Kinsale?

The article above says she was part of some kind of parade connected with a shoreside event. So the route was not the master's decision, though of course it's his right to refuse if he considered it dangerous. If the required route put the wind any further forward than on the beam, they'd have had to motor in order to get there in reasonable time.

Possibly the route was closer to the coast than otherwise normal, in order to give spectators a good view? I know this was considered an issue in the Maria Assumpta sinking (though in that case it was the master's own idea to go close inshore for people to see the ship).

Pete