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I bet that's wet in a seaway!
A bet you would probably loose based on having sailed a McGruer 8metre C/R hard for 9 years including a number of crossings between Shetland and Norway, with one in a northerly F 8 to 9. Also, a direct passage Shetland to Lofoten, (north of the Arctic Circle). Yes, there was spray from wave splashes in strong winds as I have experienced on boats with around twice the freeboard but no heavy water on the boat. The hull form of such boats ride the sea in a different way to the hulls that are currently in fashion with near vertical stems, wide beam, slab sides, and near flat bottom. The overhangs provide serious amounts of reserve buoyancy as well as extending the waterline length as they ride their own bow and stern waves.

McGruer 8metre C/R: 42ft on deck 30ft waterline (overweight with a diesel put in by previous owner, should have been 26ft) 9ft 11" max beam at one point over the tumble home, 6ft draft, and very low freeboard by modern standards.
 
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A bet you would probably loose based on having sailed a McGruer 8metre C/R hard for 9 years including a number of crossings between Shetland and Norway, with one in a northerly F 8 to 9. Also, a direct passage Shetland to Lofoten, (north of the Arctic Circle). Yes, there was spray from wave splashes in strong winds as I have experienced on boats with around twice the freeboard but no heavy water on the boat. The hull form of such boats ride the sea in a different way to the hulls that are currently in fashion with near vertical stems, wide beam, slab sides, and near flat bottom. The overhangs provide serious amounts of reserve buoyancy as well as extending the waterline length as they ride their own bow and stern waves.

McGruer 8metre C/R: 42ft on deck 30ft waterline (overweight with a diesel put in by previous owner, should have been 26ft) 9ft 11" max beam at one point over the tumble home, 6ft draft, and very low freeboard by modern standards.
I did a fair bit of 8 metre racing, my experience is almost entirely contrary. Half tide rock is considerably understating the reality of life on the rail of an 8M. That was a 1929 wooden one by Fife.
 

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I did a fair bit of 8 metre racing, my experience is almost entirely contrary. Half tide rock is considerably understating the reality of life on the rail of an 8M. That was a 1929 wooden one by Fife.

I never sat on the rail of any of my boats, the thought never crossed my mind, but have done so on other boats when helping out as crew. Whatever the boat sitting out on the weather rail is asking to get wet. I use my boats to visit interesting places. But then life would be so dull if we all wanted/enjoyed to the same thing.
The counter was a good place to sit and enjoy the sailing, I particularly remember two fast broad reaches back from St.Kilda with the stern wave level with the deck at the end of the counter and the boat at hull speed the whole way.
 

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I suppose some people have ugly wives and love them as well. No accounting for poor taste in boats.
Somebody has just taken a hull and stuck pointy bits each end with little regard for the rest of the craft.
Shows a complete lack of design skill in my view
 

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A bet you would probably loose based on having sailed a McGruer 8metre C/R hard for 9 years including a number of crossings between Shetland and Norway, with one in a northerly F 8 to 9. Also, a direct passage Shetland to Lofoten, (north of the Arctic Circle). Yes, there was spray from wave splashes in strong winds as I have experienced on boats with around twice the freeboard but no heavy water on the boat. The hull form of such boats ride the sea in a different way to the hulls that are currently in fashion with near vertical stems, wide beam, slab sides, and near flat bottom. The overhangs provide serious amounts of reserve buoyancy as well as extending the waterline length as they ride their own bow and stern waves.

McGruer 8metre C/R: 42ft on deck 30ft waterline (overweight with a diesel put in by previous owner, should have been 26ft) 9ft 11" max beam at one point over the tumble home, 6ft draft, and very low freeboard by modern standards.
Talking of McGruers, this beauty was in Paimpol this weekend 💕 ❤️ 💗😍
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The one here in Cape Town seems to be for sale.
Just mentioning for those of you who lust so much ...
www.yachtandpowersails.com

Happy drooling ... roughly 50.000,- Euro

Cheers G.
I live in Australia and enquired about the SA one a couple of months ago. I asked the broker how complicated would it be to add a watertight bulkhead in the forward section and one in front of the rudder. He couldn't be bothered to even take a look. Said that it's probably possible. It's hard to get info these days it seems. I wouldn't like to sail one in the Southern Ocean without doing this modification. And take a wetsuit !!!!
 

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I live in Australia and enquired about the SA one a couple of months ago. I asked the broker how complicated would it be to add a watertight bulkhead in the forward section and one in front of the rudder. He couldn't be bothered to even take a look. Said that it's probably possible. It's hard to get info these days it seems. I wouldn't like to sail one in the Southern Ocean without doing this modification. And take a wetsuit !!!!
May be just try and get into contact with the owner. I guess a fair way would be to start vie the agent.... maybe also not, can't say.

The present owner has apparently sailed her in races around Cape Town.
I am no member of the RCYC but I might be able to find out a telephone number.

Cheers, G.
 

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I live in Australia and enquired about the SA one a couple of months ago. I asked the broker how complicated would it be to add a watertight bulkhead in the forward section and one in front of the rudder. He couldn't be bothered to even take a look. Said that it's probably possible. It's hard to get info these days it seems. I wouldn't like to sail one in the Southern Ocean without doing this modification. And take a wetsuit !!!!

A watertight bulkhead, as we imagine from the war films, may well be overkill.

You may not have seen this:


It illustrates two things: First how strong a solid GRP hull actually is and Secondly how a well thought out bridge deck to the forward cabin might be effective in the case of damage forward.

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May be just try and get into contact with the owner. I guess a fair way would be to start vie the agent.... maybe also not, can't say.

The present owner has apparently sailed her in races around Cape Town.
I am no member of the RCYC but I might be able to find out a telephone number.

Cheers, G.
Thanks for the reply. I believe the owner is quite old now. The interior is obviously very original and needs work but some of the rig is new. What I like about it is that it should be quick enough to avoid the worst of the fronts that track along at about 40/45 degrees. When younger I used to be on large fishing boats south of Australia and have no desire to get caught.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I believe the owner is quite old now. The interior is obviously very original and needs work but some of the rig is new. What I like about it is that it should be quick enough to avoid the worst of the fronts that track along at about 40/45 degrees. When younger I used to be on large fishing boats south of Australia and have no desire to get caug

Gimme a shout, if I must call around.

Cheers, G
 
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I suppose some people have ugly wives and love them as well. No accounting for poor taste in boats.
Somebody has just taken a hull and stuck pointy bits each end with little regard for the rest of the craft.
Shows a complete lack of design skill in my view

Wash your mouth out with soap. Knud Reimers was one of the finest yacht designers of the 20th century & had a huge portfolio of stunning boats.
 
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