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Gotcha Pauline. .......do you remember Goblin Teasmaids? that would make mornings easier too

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There's so many other things to worry about that I never give a thought to shorepower. The act of leaving always seems to disconnect it.



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Wake up
Turn sea cocks on while kettle boiling
Ask crew if she can think of any reason why I fitted a hook under the shelf, yes that's where we put the keys now, it has only been there 6 months /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
Find keys
Start Stb engine, hang over side, yes water coming out. Repeat for port.
While warming up spin wheel lock to lock, always do this now as tie bar is internal between twin rudders, got jammed one night so could not get more than about 1/4 turn to port and almost put TC onto the slipway at the madoc boat club in Porthmadog.
Look at tide and wind, decide which order to drop fore and aft moorings.
Cock it up and drift about running each engine to see what effect it has
Slip out with coffee in hand.

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different approach

I think people start the engines far too soon. It's bad for the engines and bad for the atmosphere.

I do it this order
(a) check lots of stuff, engines off
(b) disconnect shore power. Start genset if 240v needed
(c) turn ign keys on to start blowers, engines still off
(d) undo all lines and tidy them away (I am stern to moored, so boat is sandwiched in both sides, the prevailing wind makes it move away from the dock at about 1 knot, parallel to the two boats sandwiching me in
(e) praps put away the forward fenders if calm weahter
(f) finally, when boat is about 1/2 way out of its berth, start the engines and drive off

This is totally safe, if they didn't start I can still reach the boats both sides to tie up again. It delays burning fuel till last minute. And it allows the engines to be loaded within a short time of starting them, which is good for em.

Obviously if it's blowing a hoolie it would be different, and if it's the first time out in the boat after say 2 weeks away I might start em 15 seconds sooner or summink. But really for modern engines I think we should get out of the habit of running engines for ages before casting off. Max 2 mins I'd say.


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Re: different approach

Nah!
Opposite approach. Run engine up, make sure forward and reverse gears engaged and work against springs. Before casting off. Been caught out there before.

Nothing worse than thinking engines running ok, only for them to stall when you engage gear

Depends on the setup though

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What total rubbish!

Jfm's ACTUAL method of departure is

1. Stand on quayside and take off all the lines whislt aying "oh, blimek, you bluddy yotmasters types you, tsk"
2. Leap on board, as boat about to depart.

mind you, it seems to work okay :-)
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1 - Normal engine and engine room checks (oil, fuel, bilges, water strainers).
2 - Close and re-open engine raw water seacocks (reduces chances of seizing open).
3 - Disconnect shore power.
4 - Remove normal warps and secure vessel with 3 looped warps.
5 - Start engines.
6 - Setup route on nav kit/go for pee/check thruster and engines go into gear/rev to 1500rpm out of gear.
7 - When engines are warmish, released looped warps and go.

jfm leaves his engines until the last minute, in fact after the last minute. I think I'd prefer to have a problem with an engine whilst moored up, although as he says he's not going anywhere until he's out of his berth completely.

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Now I don\'t want to get all technical, but...

...its very advisable to have warm engines when switching from petrol to LPG - otherwise the vapourisers can freeze over and thats a very bad thing...

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1. Get everyone and everything onboard
2. Tell all of what is going to happen and what is expected from them
3. Switch on whatever needs to be on ... ( @$%&* Itailian language... what does this one do again ?? need to finish my translation and label these ones..)
4. Go down to the engines and do the checks, incl bilges of course
5. Disconnect shorepower and single up lines
6. Start engines
7. Tell everyone who comes running that the thing is not on fire...
8. Visual check for coolig water through the exhaust
9. Request clearance for departing harbour
10. Let go of lines and move her out slowly (or supervise daughter when she is)
11. Take in fenders and tidy up the lines for re-use


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Alf
 
If my engines dont work I can recover the situation provided stern of my boat has not left my parking space. Realistically, the chances of them not starting are absolutely tiny

Warming the engines up in neutral does wear em out faster (though, we're splitting hairs a bit here). Much better to fire em up then after 10 seconds put some load on them. This puts more fuel in, so gets them to operating temp much faster. If you warm them up in neutral they are sipping tiny amounts of fuel, so they take ages to warm up (burning fuel is what warms em up) so you do more engine revolutions on cold bearings, hence more wear

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