Surly - Shipwrights Arms, Helford

In Faversham (North Kent shore) there's a pub with a landlord famous for his acerbic attitude and unpredictable moods.

It's called...

The Shipwright's Arms
 
Both boozers have previous convictions (Ferry and Shipwrights) going back 25years. Sadly it is a toss up which is worst, I would choose the Yacht Club every time.
 
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Innocent and thirsty sailor upsets surly bearded barman....:D
 
doug748 said:
Both boozers have previous convictions (Ferry and Shipwrights) going back 25years. Sadly it is a toss up which is worst, I would choose the Yacht Club every time.
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It's a sad indictment of the worst of what the Cornish "hospitality" industry has to offer, and both in the same area.
 
Comrade Red said:
It's a sad indictment of the worst of what the Cornish "hospitality" industry has to offer, and both in the same area.
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Unfortunatly, from the attitudes I have seen, the cornish see the tourists as a resource that is taken for granted and is despised. Wether it is beacuse they bring their holiday money and so seem rich or they really don't realise how easy they have it. The line I've heard most, quite recently is usually "It'll be back to being ours in a few weeks, don't worry"

Shame as being a Devonian I think the attitude is different. Plymouth especially, welcoming tourism and holidaymakers.

(Not all Cornsh but a lot I've met)
 
monkfish24 said:
Unfortunatly, from the attitudes I have seen, the cornish see the tourists as a resource that is taken for granted and is despised. Wether it is beacuse they bring their holiday money and so seem rich or they really don't realise how easy they have it. The line I've heard most, quite recently is usually "It'll be back to being ours in a few weeks, don't worry"

Shame as being a Devonian I think the attitude is different. Plymouth especially, welcoming tourism and holidaymakers.

(Not all Cornsh but a lot I've met)
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Yes, we have it real easy down our way... can't move on the roads for caravans and other drivers (who are only used to wide roads) for months, generally **** infrastructure due to chronic lack of investment over many decades, high unemployment, low wages, extortionate house prices (where you can even find a place for sale that isn't someone else's second home), council tax and water charges etc etc etc... hey I'm not saying that living down in Cornwall is all doom and gloom, of course it isn't, everywhere has it's ups and downs and I love my birthplace but it also is by no means easy living here! Yes I s'pose some people take the 'emmets' for granted, but no more so that the people that come down and take our 'Country' for granted in a similarly disrespectful manner and treat it accordingly.

That said, there is no excuse for poor service in any walk of life and I am sorry that a few people have displayed such a **** attitude to their duties. or their customers and if they worked for me they would be collecting their P45 pronto, but I have to say the most unfriendly places I've ever lived in or visited have been north of the border in England... :rolleyes:

Oh.., and don't forget... you've gotta go through Devon to get to Heaven! :p
 
monkfish24 said:
Unfortunatly, from the attitudes I have seen, the cornish see the tourists as a resource that is taken for granted and is despised. Wether it is beacuse they bring their holiday money and so seem rich or they really don't realise how easy they have it. The line I've heard most, quite recently is usually "It'll be back to being ours in a few weeks, don't worry"

(Not all Cornsh but a lot I've met)
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A lot of the locals don't work in the tourist industry, and don't want their home towns overrun by tourists, funnily enough :rolleyes:

Is there any wonder there is resentment to the tourists when the population of a town can double or triple in the summer, there's a queue at the bar, queues at the pasty shops, queues for the morning paper, if the tourists haven't bought them all before the locals get there.

Tourists buy up (second) properties sending house prices through the roof, meaning the children who grew up there either have to live with their parents or move away. The local population see their home town changing as the local shop owners sell up because they cannot survive during the winter months (because there are less locals) and bog off leaving a town with 15 clothes shops, no butcher, no green grocer, one convenience shop, while a out of town supermarket opens up.

Then the saviour in the shape of a celebrity chef decides they want to do for the town what Rick Stein did for Padstow (buy it all up, put it on the map and increase their wealth)

Agreed, if you're going to work in the tourist industry, you should specialise in customer service.

But if you're a local and your work has nothing to do with tourists, wouldn't you get a little peeved by their presence?
 
KevO said:
Yes, we have it real easy down our way... can't move on the roads for caravans and other drivers (who are only used to wide roads) for months, generally **** infrastructure due to chronic lack of investment over many decades, high unemployment, low wages, extortionate house prices (where you can even find a place for sale that isn't someone else's second home), council tax and water charges etc etc etc...
That said, there is no excuse for poor service in any walk of life and I am sorry that a few people have displayed such a **** attitude to their duties. or their customers and if they worked for me they would be collecting their P45 pronto, but I have to say the most unfriendly places I've ever lived in or visited have been north of the border in England... :rolleyes:

Oh.., and don't forget... you've gotta go through Devon to get to Heaven! :p
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snooks said:
A lot of the locals don't work in the tourist industry, and don't want their home towns overrun by tourists, funnily enough :rolleyes:

Is there any wonder there is resentment to the tourists when the population of a town can double or triple in the summer, there's a queue at the bar, queues at the pasty shops, queues for the morning paper, if the tourists haven't bought them all before the locals get there......

......Agreed, if you're going to work in the tourist industry, you should specialise in customer service.

But if you're a local and your work has nothing to do with tourists, wouldn't you get a little peeved by their presence?
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I'm not immune to the problems gentlemen, I live in Cornwall myself.

I still think the attitude displayed sometimes is wrong. It's a place that is losing it's relaxed, laid back attitude rather quickly, probably for most of the reasons KevO has stated rather than the tourism. Where would Cornwall be without it though. As you state, no jobs, no industry and very little prospect in places that were Englands richest hotspots.

And KevO, your not a country,your just still a county ;)
 
And KevO, your not a country,your just still a county ...

Ah... spoken just like an Englishman... bet Trelawney is rolling in his grave... especially with you being an 'immigrant' 'and all that.

And by the way... you do yer cream teas wrong too!!! :D
 
KevO said:
^ Now that's what I should have said... :D
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I think my first post was a bit too strongly worded. :)

KevO said:
And KevO, your not a country,your just still a county ...

Ah... spoken just like an Englishman... bet Trelawney is rolling in his grave... especially with you being an 'immigrant' 'and all that.

And by the way... you do yer cream teas wrong too!!! :D
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Devon Cream Teas have been the same way since Pre Victorian times.

Even Victoria herself was known to come to Devon and say "Bleeding Eck, these cream teas are bloody scrumptious", so she did :D
 
Devon Cream Teas have been the same way since Pre Victorian times.


Cornish cream teas have been made that way since before the romans invaded ENGLAND... :D
 
Ah HA!!

(this is rapidly descending in to cross border rivalry)

So... therefore you recognize (rightly) that between us lies a 'border' such as is found between Countries as opposed to a 'boundary' such as one might find between shall we say, counties within a country???

Cool... knew I was right... Mother will be so proud. ;)
 
KevO said:
Ah HA!!

(this is rapidly descending in to cross border rivalry)

So... therefore you recognize (rightly) that between us lies a 'border' such as is found between Countries as opposed to a 'boundary' such as one might find between shall we say, counties within a country???

Cool... knew I was right... Mother will be so proud. ;)
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My Mother's shrubbery has a pretty little border, doesn't mean her house is a country.....
 
Calm down gents, now the A30 is finished and the roadblock that was the rail bridge is gone it won't be long before Cornwall is just like London. You'll LOVE it.

FWIW I was born there and moved away for the aforementioned jobs. One day I'll save up enough to buy some property down there to move back and people will assume I'm from that there London and ruining it for the locals :)
 
lustyd said:
Calm down gents, now the A30 is finished and the roadblock that was the rail bridge is gone it won't be long before Cornwall is just like London. You'll LOVE it.

FWIW I was born there and moved away for the aforementioned jobs. One day I'll save up enough to buy some property down there to move back and people will assume I'm from that there London and ruining it for the locals :)
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Gawd help us... nearly dropped me pasty reading that.. and no... you would be treated like a returning hero who has been abroad earning a crust and helping to breed the English out from the inside.... cunning devil... :D
 
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