Surely another scam????

[jackho]

I have my Bav.34 advertised - with pictures!!! Thought I should publicise this e-mail enquiry as it is surely another form of scam - I trust you all agree????


Attn Sir/Madam ,

We are a europe based auto company.
One of our client is interested in the purchase of your boat.
She has asked that we contact you and make enquires from you.
Now I would request that you provide us with recent pictures of the boat.
And also let us know if a bank draft would be acceptable to you.
Please do let me know asap,so we can get back to our client.
Until then,do have a wonderful day.

Best Regards,
Mr.Andrew Leach
E-mail : mrandrewleach01@yahoo.co.uk

 

[fireball]

First suspicion is the yahoo email address ... and just what is a "europe based auto company" ??
However, it wouldn't hurt to progress this one a little further - it might be genuine ...

 

[Gargleblaster]

I sold a boat a few years ago. One of the enquiries I had as a result of an add on the WWW, was from someone who purported to be from Holland and offered full price. It ended up as one of the Nigerian scams. They would pay me the full price plus the cost of shipping, as long as I paid the shippers. I was away fortunately my wife was smart enough to insist that we wait for the cheque to clear despite browbeating from the supposed shippers insisting they only had a day in which to pick up the boat and ship it. Despite the bank initially declaring the cheque looked 'good', it bounced. However other than the hassle we lost nothing. However it could have been a genuine purchaser and it could have been a no hassle sale if it had worked.
The warning signs are the willingness to buy sight unseen and them giving you the extra to pay the shipper.

 

[PCUK]

No one buys a boat without seeing it!
Ignore mail. If it is genuine they will get back to you with more details.

 

[simonfraser]

agree, a scam the cheque will bounce after you have said goodbye to your boat

 

[Abigail]

Well known form of scam - simonfraser97 absolutely right. dont' reply - the fraudsters reckon to get the money off 70% of those who reply to the initial trawl! (recent coverage in Guardian who talked at length to some of the people doing this).

 

[jstr]

Definitely a scam - I had a number of these when I sold my Hunter Medina recently - one actually talked about my "car" not my boat!

 

[tangomoon]

The Banker's draft bit sounds warm and secure - it isn't

An irrevocable letter of credit sounds wonderful and as good as money in the bank - it isn't.

Nothing means anything other than money in your account. I would also be careful about giving addresses out more and more people seem willing to commit awful crimes for little money.

If it sounds too good to be true it usually is.

 

[DaveS]

Almost certainly a scam. I had a number of these when trying to sell a car recently. In fact every single email enquiry proved to be a variation on the theme, with more or less imaginative additions to the basics: foreign client with bank draft (which would actually take weeks to clear - or, more accurately, not clear - even though your bank would show the funds as credited to you in the interim), price accepted without argument or viewing, etc.

 

[Koeketiene]

Scam - got the very same one the day I advertised Yanita on YBW

 

[Blueboatman]

Re: I scam back.......

Quoting...''Now I would request that you provide us with recent pictures of the boat.''
Why not,if you want to pursue this ,using a hotmail address eg Capt Eyeseeyou @hotmail ,request 100 euros up front-not in to your b/account of course- in good faith(returnable on purchase)for pictures.You can send piccies from the Bavaria brochure,why not!

 

[Fill]

If you have the time look up Scambusters (I think) on google and see some of the reverse rip-offs that have been achieved. You might find it an amusing diversion.

 

[silvertop]

Surely this is a better scam. (do you feel lucky).

FROM MR CAMINUS K.KOFFI.
AUDITING AND ACCOUNTING UNIT.
FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPT.
INTERNATIONAL BANK OF AFRICA
LOME-TOGO.

Hello Dear,

I am Mr Caminus K.Koffi,the director in charge of
auditing and accounting section of INTERNATION BANK OF
AFRICA LOME-TOGO in west Africa.With due respect and
regards.I have decided to contact you on a business
transaction that will be very beneficial to both of us
at the end of the transaction.

During our investigation and audting in this bank,my
department came across a very huge sum of money
belonging to a deceased person who was among the
victims of the ill-fated plane crash involving a
Boeing 727 UTA chartered flight that took off from
Cotonou,Republic of Benin and crashed into the
Atlantic ocean on Thursday 25 December 2003.And the
fund has been dormant in his account with this bank
without any claim of the fund in our custody either
from his family or relation before our discovery to
this development.

Although personally,I kept this information secret
within myself and my partner to enable the whole plans
and idea be profitable and successful during the time
of execution.The said amount was
USD$10,000.000.00(Fifteen million united states
dorllars).As it may intrest you to know,I got your
information from a website were i was searching for a
trustworthy person who will help me and my colleague
champion this transaction,meanwhile all the whole
arrangement to put claim over this fund as the
bonafide next of kin to the deceased,get the required
approval and transfer this money to a foriegn account
has been put in place and directives and needed
information will be relayed to you as soon as you
indicate your intrest and willingness to assist us and
also benefit your self to this great business
opportunity.

In fact I could have done this deal alone but because
of my position in this country as a civil servant,we
are not allowed to operate a foriegn account and would
eventually raise an eye brow on my side during the
time of transfer because I work in this bank. This is
the actual reason why it will require a second party
or fellow who will forward claims as the next of kin
with affidavit of trust of Oath to the bank and also
present a foriegn account where he will need the
money to be re-transfered into on his request as it
may be after due verification and clarification by
designated bank account.

I will not fail to inform you that this transaction is
100% risk free.On the smooth conclusion of this
transaction,you will be entitiled to 25% of the total
sum as gratification,5% will be set aside to take care
of expenses that may arise during the time of transfer
both local and internationalbills like telephone bills
including the documents fees,while 70% will be kept on
trust for me and my colleague.Please,you have been
adviced to keep top secret as we are still in service
and intend to retire from service after we conclude
this deal with you.I will be monitoring the whole
situation here in this bank until you confirm the
money in your account.And ask us to come down to your
country for subsequent sharing of the fund according
to percentages previously indicated and further
investment, either in your country or any country you
advice us to invest in.

All other necessary information will be sent to you
when I hear from you.I suggest you get back to me as
soon as possible stating your wish in this deal.

Yours faithfully,
Mr Caminus K.Koffi.
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[David_Jersey]

Scam.

I could tell you all the reasons why...............but you never know who is reading this..........looking to perfect things.

But wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too lazy /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[chris_hall]

Take no notice of it . I sold my boat on the net this year and had two or three of these mails. Played one of them along to see what the outcome would be, tried to get them to send a cheque with their agent who was to come over to buy the boat, no deal, travel costs etc they insisted on the bank draft. I politely told them to p off and informed the fraud division of the local police.

 

[Anonymous]

[ QUOTE ]
Nothing means anything other than money in your account.

[/ QUOTE ]A couple of years back I was warned by my bank that money paid into your account can be clawed back many months later under some circumstances. Since then I have insisted on cash from people who seem in the least bit questionable.

 

[Wansworth]

This is known as a timo in Spain The bsaic idea is offer large quantity of cash(false money) in exchange for smaller amount using various tales of illness ,time etc.Victim hands over real cash and the timadores skedadle.Victim left with bag of old newespaper.Works on the principal that people are avaricious and gullible

 

[graham]

[ QUOTE ]
couple of years back I was warned by my bank that money paid into your account can be clawed back many months later

[/ QUOTE ]

This is the whole essence of the scam. You check with your bank and they confirm the bankers draft is now cleared funds in your account.You happily let the boat be removed to god knows where.A few weeks later your bank contact you and tell you the bankers draft was a dud and the amount has now been deducted from your account. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[weaver_fish]

Take a look at http://www.419eater.com/ this guy (dangerously) takes on the scammers, builds up a relationship to waste their time and then scams them....

...not sure I'd recommend it though!

 

[Rabbie]

Whilst attempting to sell my boat over the past few months I have received about a dozen almost identical emails. Anyone with half a brain can see they are a scam. What really amazes me is the stupidity of the scammers - they dont even try to sound genuine!.