sunseker portonfino 46

The gearleg of the standard QL bowtruster is a weak point of the Portofino 46. The engine exhaust is always leaking, they corrode badly on the water jackets and the complete steel exhaust. Sometimes a complete new exhaust is the only option. Also the elektromotor of the bathingplatform is to light so sometimes it breaksdown on heavy load..
 
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lanerboy said:
Ok
We feel that we spend a fair time on out boat in the marina and unless its like it is at the minute we cannot use the flybridge as its too cold up there most the time, I have owned my boat phantom 40 2004 since oct 2013 and I can count on one hand the times we have spent more than 1hr on the flybridge due to the fantastic uk climate :rolleyes:.

We PERSONALLY feel we would like to go back to a sports boat style hence the post Portofino 46

cheers shawn
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I think I understand exactly where you're coming from. I went BAV330 Sports -Phantom38 FLY - Targa 40 Sports - Azi46 FLY. There is no right or wrong a we all know, it's what tickles your own that matters. I like open sports and the space and comfort of the Fly bridge saloon. Bad weather I drive below. The Targa was a great sports boat, very quick and responsive. No Flybridge will give you that feeling which is certainly one of the factors Jimmy T' Builder moved back. I like the Fly more at the moment but I think they are nicer if you can go to a bigger one. :ambivalence:

The Portofino, as pretty as it is will not give you that as it's on shafts, some would say, 'the only way to go'. If you're looking for known weaknesses, some would say the Portofino 46's is that it has 'V' drives to assist getting the engine further back to increase internal space and low shaft angle to get a better ride angle. The Porto' 46 does run very bow up until you get to fairly high cruising speed around 25 knots, iirc.

I've not owned one but I have had the pleasure of helming one, very nice in the berthing department but very poor in the all round visibility unless all the rear covers removed, but that pretty standard on most sports' boats.

Targa 43 also nice but not so nice in the cockpit department. Both are nice below although the Sunseeker is obviously bigger. Of the bigger shaft driven boats, I still like the V48, it's a great yardstick.

Looking forward to hearing how things develop.:encouragement:

RR
 
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lanerboy said:
still had the outside feeling
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Shawn, you should consider changing the climate not the boat :D

I get your point but my concern with sportscruisers is that the lower saloon has even less outside feeling than the saloon on a flybridge boat, and so doesn't really get used at all. It becomes just a lobby. Your living space is therefore the upper deck and therefore wouldn't it be nice if that had the ability to be insidey as well as outsidey? . Therefore, surely what you should get is a HT sports cruiser. Then you have no lower saloon space but better cabins, and the upstairs living space is more saloony and less cockpitty, and you can have an inside or outside feeling (and driving) by opening or closing the roof
 
RogerRat said:
The Portofino, as pretty as it is
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Spot on.
Let's face it - and I'm now taling to all other f/b owners - open boats are much nicer than F/Bs, period.
That has been their KSF for ages, and always will.
Of course F/Bs are better in most, if not all, other respects (particularly in cold climates!), but so what?
It's pointless to argue about functionalities with anyone who is attracted by a Portofino - or a Baia, Itama, etc., for that matter.
I for one would love to have a Magnum Bestia parked next to my "down-to-earth" boat, and grab it for day cruises in glorious weather.... :cool:
 
Shawn, we are all different, and good job too. However we love the options our fly gives us, especially the light, airy, yet snug saloon. We are getting so much more use out of the Snazi compared with our old, albeit much smaller Sunline.
 
I love my Sunseeker, (ok, every other ss on the market is in a different league altogether than my old buket) but the summers are what its made for.... Or the med. even though i think flybridge boats are completely and utterly more usable year round, more sensible, and better equiped for foul weather, park an open sports boat next to one, and the difference to me is clear (visually)
Boatings as much about the sheer joy and heart in it, as much as the head (imho)
Id love a larger SS, like a camargue 47 or mustique 42... But not practical for year round use. Wouldnt stop me buying one though :)
Maybe i would find the extra practicality in it, purely because its a larger boat and could carry my excessive gear with me...
( all said even though I am building a flybridge ;)
 
Not withstanding a different set of metrics being based in the SoF and a seasonal boater .
We have the smaller SS P 35 and TBH in a fast boat I think it's nice we are all on the same eyeline when bombing along ,especially when the kids where little .
I rather like the open feel and look - works in the Med - never powerboated in the UK

P46 will be a great family / caravan ( in the nice accomodation sence ) .i think the 74 ,s are bombproof cruise is a little low due to wide beam 22-24 ish with fouling -but wey hay -seem good value - actually 49 ft
Mines nearer 38 ,and the 53 is 18 M .So the naming is all over the place - you can tell that when you climb aboard .
Hope it all works out
 
once again thanks for all the great advise etc

John I just cant move locations at the minute due to kids school etc etc it makes time at the boat very expensive during school holls period flights and so on, although I have been looking at boats in the med and its going to be hard to justify bringing one back to this country and its weather lol
 
lanerboy said:
still browsing this model and they all seem to come with air con and electric oven and hob but the generators seem to vary from 4kw up to 9kw so what size genny would a Portofino 46 require to do the job correctly
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4kW isn't enough to run aircon on any boat so definitely look for a boat with a 9kW gennie if you're planning on running aircon and the SWMBO's hair dryer at the same time
 
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4kW isn't enough to run aircon on any boat so definitely look for a boat with a 9kW gennie if you're planning on running aircon and the SWMBO's hair dryer at the same time
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Well, fwiw my 6.5kW Onan genset can handle simultaneously the two 17000 BTU compressors I have on board.
...though actually, I turned on the a/c while anchored maybe two or three times (if that) in the last decade and a half.
I suppose it might be more useful for cold climates, to be able to run the heating also while cruising/anchoring.
Not that I'm disagreeing anyway, 4kW does sound small(ish) for a 46' boat, generally speaking.
 
MapisM said:
Well, fwiw my 6.5kW Onan genset can handle simultaneously the two 17000 BTU compressors I have on board.
...though actually, I turned on the a/c while anchored maybe two or three times (if that) in the last decade and a half.
I suppose it might be more useful for cold climates, to be able to run the heating also while cruising/anchoring.
Not that I'm disagreeing anyway, 4kW does sound small(ish) for a 46' boat, generally speaking.
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One of my last boats in the UK (Princess 435) had a 4kW gennie and aircon fitted. The gennie couldn't handle the aircon and we could only use it when hooked up to shorepower not that you need aircon in the UK very often. Yup probably a good 6.5kW gennie could drive the aircon on a 40-50ft boat but as soon as you boil a kettle or cook on the electric hob, it may struggle. Thats why I said 9kW was desirable because then you've got fewer worries about overloading it
 
Yup, agreed.
The only possible drawback is space, which might be tight on a 46' open boat, but other than that, I'd rather have a 9 than a 4.
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
A quick google suggests 250kg.
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Jimmy I heard you the 1st time :D only joking lol

I have searched google for this info how did you find that out :confused::confused:

Also if thats the limit that's a bit poor really don't you think as a Yamaha gp1200 jet ski is about 240kg so that is on the limit I would have expected more than that or am I expecting too much ?????????
 
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lanerboy said:
Jimmy I heard you the 1st time :D only joking lol

I have searched google for this info how did you find that out :confused::confused:

Also if thats the limit that's a bit poor really don't you think as a Yamaha gp1200 jet ski is about 240kg so that is on the limit I would have expected more than that or am I expecting too much ?????????
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Sorry about the double post, forum was misbehaving a bit last night. Anyway, this is where I saw the Portofino 46 info, looks like it's been lifted straight from a brochure. If you wanted to be definitive, the obvious thing to do is speak to SS.

http://www.boatshop24.co.uk/advert/sunseeker-portofino-46-guernsey/40262835
 
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