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Well had a nice trip up and down the Hamble today, on the way back was stuck behind the sunseeker 95 after it left Swanwick is it me but that looks like one ugly boat from the rear. I am sure it's lovely inside but being behind it for 25 mins it was starting to make me think if I spent x amount of millions on a boat I would want it to look great from all angles
 
If their brief was to design the most ugly boat on the planet then Suneeker’s boys & girls have nailed it. The Sunseeker 95 will win hands down at the marine mingers world cup. There is not a single viewpoint which fails to frame their efforts perfectly.

As a buyer and seller of used Porsches the Panamera has taught me to not judge a book by its cover. A visually challenging car from some angles it cossets the driver in a rewarding atmosphere of engineered leather and perfectly executed controls. Handling belies its mass and particularly if you opt for something with a turbo in the title the performance is blistering. So I stepped foot on board with an open mind.

Initial impressions were of a bright and airy space thanks to huge glass walls. I’ve always seen Sunseekers as a bit dark and enclosed compared to their equivalent Princess cousins but this was a new breed of Sunseeker with nothing to spoil the view.

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Saloon

Fixtures and fittings were in stark contrast to the outside, quite neutral. It’s a large space as you might expect from a boat of this size. The feeling of letting the outside world in, (which will never happen of course thanks to your former special forces bodyguards on the bathing platform), is further emphasised by a patio door and drop down balcony to starboard opposite the dining area.

Carrying on forward there was a staircase leading to the engine room deep down in the bowels and another set leading up to the bridge but my eye was drawn to a bedroom. Wandering in the large glass window theme continued but the jaw dropping feature was some stairs leading down to a wardrobe on a landing and then a couple more steps leading down to the bathroom underneath the bedroom.

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Master cabin upper level

Opulance in the extreme let down only by exposed cross head screws at the base of the stainless railings. I’m assuming waves lapping around the bow isn’t an issue on something of this size. An awesome space.

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Bathroom under the master cabin

Heading off in search of the other cabins it suddenly dawned on me that those engine room steps were in fact the way you got to the 3 remaining cabins.

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Steps to 3 remaining cabins

Quite narrow and very steep. A lot of the bigger boats I’ve seen are owned by more mature individuals who have sold businesses and are now enjoying the trappings of wealth. Your “niece’s” friends will be ok, your contemporaries might struggle. The crew bunks are always an option. A couple of twin ensuite cabins and a more decent VIP cabin with walk in wardrobe and en suite will be their reward if they manage the journey.

The helm position has a single captains chair with settee seating for visitors. Not much room for a second person at the coal face. Also no access to the side decks although there was a hatch and a couple of steps which led up to the flybridge. It felt a little cramped but in a strange way I liked that, a bit like being in the cockpit of a plane.

Going back down the stairs through the dining room I saw a corridor which led to the galley.

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Leading to the galley

Somewhat bizarrely the galley was a dead end.There was only one way in or out via the dining room / saloon. There is a door which leads to the narrow side deck but a cup of tea or lunch for the skipper has to pass the owner or paying guests. I’m not sure how that fits in with the seamless invisible service demanded of 95 foot yacht owners.

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Galley

I did venture out onto the side deck and felt it was a bit narrow. The high sides were re-assuring but you might struggle to carry the shopping back into the galley.

We walked to the bow and had a look at the forward seating. It reminded me of a throne. You were hidden from view to the rest of the boat so would be able to sit there gazing out to the world. I did wonder if that world might see you as an emperor wearing his new clothes ?

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Forward seating

There were some steps you could clamber up to get onto a sunpad. Not sure how it would all work with thongs showing off the good lady wife's under carriage and getting sun cream, drinks, an iPad and some towels up there. Pray no one's been drinking otherwise you'll need to get the hospital phrase book out and prepare for a medevac.

I won’t ever buy a 95 foot boat for a couple of reasons not least of which being the cost but if I were in the market there are a number of features which would concern me. It’s interesting that this boat was for sale, normally I would expect a new model Sunseeker to be forward sold several months or even years….

Henry :)
 
As a buyer and seller of used Porsches the Panamera has taught me to not judge a book by its cover. A visually challenging car from some angles
LOL, visually challenging.
That's by far the most gentle definition I've ever heard for the Panamera design.
Something like fugly is probably the next nicest term I heard so far, but even worse terms are normally used, even among Porsche fans.... :disgust: :D
 
LOL, visually challenging.
That's by far the most gentle definition I've ever heard for the Panamera design.
Something like fugly is probably the next nicest term I heard so far, but even worse terms are normally used, even among Porsche fans.... :disgust: :D

Fugly indeed but so much fun to drive without the restrictions of speed limits! i have never driven anything quite like it!

lovely pics of the 95 thanks Henry.
 
Henry, Thanks for that write up, Loved the main bedroom, and bathroom, the rest of it was or very the same, How much is it?
 
The interior looks like a smart apartment more than a boat. Very swish, polished and smart, but a bit incongruous to me. No mistaking the quality, just would prefer a more traditional boat look and feel if I ever won the lottery and could afford such a thing.
 
Lovin' the review of the 95, H. But - and maybe your camerawork makes the "engine room" steps look wider than they are - it looks as though you'd still have to be quite a bloater to get stuck in that space. :D
 
Sunseeker new 95 Yacht is a direct competitor to the Ferretti 960, and Azimut 95 Grande.

All have 28 meters plus of LOA but have waterline of 23.9 able to be helm'd by standard yacht master, have a raised pilot house design, and are semi-production builds.
Both Ferretti and Azimut are doing very well with this series.
I think the Ferretti looks nicer to the other two, still sleek, and has the most intelligent transforming aft deck of the group.

Why is it that that nearly all big Sunseeker's have sterns looking so busy. Cannot they really make the stern a bit more simple and clean.
 
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Boats will soon look like small aircraft carriers if they keep making them bigger up top whilst keeping the LWL at 23.99. Is this about the limit, around 100'?
 
Nice pics Henry, what lenses did you use?


I used a Tamron 10-24m lens. There's actually a bit of a focal problem with the images but they do the job. I just wanted to take 1 lens and snap away knowing I was going to be shooting inside a lot. Also got some pictures of the P49 which I'll post.

Henry :)
 
If their brief was to design the most ugly boat on the planet then Suneeker’s boys & girls have nailed it. The Sunseeker 95 will win hands down at the marine mingers world cup. There is not a single viewpoint which fails to frame their efforts perfectly.

As a buyer and seller of used Porsches the Panamera has taught me to not judge a book by its cover. A visually challenging car from some angles it cossets the driver in a rewarding atmosphere of engineered leather and perfectly executed controls. Handling belies its mass and particularly if you opt for something with a turbo in the title the performance is blistering. So I stepped foot on board with an open mind.

Initial impressions were of a bright and airy space thanks to huge glass walls. I’ve always seen Sunseekers as a bit dark and enclosed compared to their equivalent Princess cousins but this was a new breed of Sunseeker with nothing to spoil the view.

saloon_zpsabqmd2ua.jpg

Saloon

Fixtures and fittings were in stark contrast to the outside, quite neutral. It’s a large space as you might expect from a boat of this size. The feeling of letting the outside world in, (which will never happen of course thanks to your former special forces bodyguards on the bathing platform), is further emphasised by a patio door and drop down balcony to starboard opposite the dining area.

Carrying on forward there was a staircase leading to the engine room deep down in the bowels and another set leading up to the bridge but my eye was drawn to a bedroom. Wandering in the large glass window theme continued but the jaw dropping feature was some stairs leading down to a wardrobe on a landing and then a couple more steps leading down to the bathroom underneath the bedroom.


Master cabin upper level

Opulance in the extreme let down only by exposed cross head screws at the base of the stainless railings. I’m assuming waves lapping around the bow isn’t an issue on something of this size. An awesome space.


Bathroom under the master cabin

Heading off in search of the other cabins it suddenly dawned on me that those engine room steps were in fact the way you got to the 3 remaining cabins.

stairs%20to%20accom_zpsdv0eqsyh.jpg

Steps to 3 remaining cabins

Quite narrow and very steep. A lot of the bigger boats I’ve seen are owned by more mature individuals who have sold businesses and are now enjoying the trappings of wealth. Your “niece’s” friends will be ok, your contemporaries might struggle. The crew bunks are always an option. A couple of twin ensuite cabins and a more decent VIP cabin with walk in wardrobe and en suite will be their reward if they manage the journey.

The helm position has a single captains chair with settee seating for visitors. Not much room for a second person at the coal face. Also no access to the side decks although there was a hatch and a couple of steps which led up to the flybridge. It felt a little cramped but in a strange way I liked that, a bit like being in the cockpit of a plane.

Going back down the stairs through the dining room I saw a corridor which led to the galley.


Leading to the galley

Somewhat bizarrely the galley was a dead end.There was only one way in or out via the dining room / saloon. There is a door which leads to the narrow side deck but a cup of tea or lunch for the skipper has to pass the owner or paying guests. I’m not sure how that fits in with the seamless invisible service demanded of 95 foot yacht owners.


Galley

I did venture out onto the side deck and felt it was a bit narrow. The high sides were re-assuring but you might struggle to carry the shopping back into the galley.

We walked to the bow and had a look at the forward seating. It reminded me of a throne. You were hidden from view to the rest of the boat so would be able to sit there gazing out to the world. I did wonder if that world might see you as an emperor wearing his new clothes ?

front%20seating_zpstlb5rju4.jpg

Forward seating

There were some steps you could clamber up to get onto a sunpad. Not sure how it would all work with thongs showing off the good lady wife's under carriage and getting sun cream, drinks, an iPad and some towels up there. Pray no one's been drinking otherwise you'll need to get the hospital phrase book out and prepare for a medevac.

I won’t ever buy a 95 foot boat for a couple of reasons not least of which being the cost but if I were in the market there are a number of features which would concern me. It’s interesting that this boat was for sale, normally I would expect a new model Sunseeker to be forward sold several months or even years….

Henry :)

Some of the photos had dropped out of the original post. Quoting to correct.

Henry :)
 
Boats will soon look like small aircraft carriers if they keep making them bigger up top whilst keeping the LWL at 23.99. Is this about the limit, around 100'?

If you want seaworthy I do not think they can go much more then 95 feet, considering height is also increasing.
Part of the reason this is also happening is that builders are also fitting high low bathing platforms, in these sizes, something which in the past and in these sizes did not use to happen before.
So your 90 feet becomes a 95 with platform. Indeed the Sunseeker 95 has the same hull as the 28 Yacht.

I am currently doing a Consultancy report for a client about a yacht about 95 feet LOA and 23.9 hull, and a small part of the data of the report along with an edited video will be online on my blog at the end of this month.

There is five brands competing here; Ferretti, Azimut, Sanlorenzo, Sunseeker, and Canados with a new project who should launch next year.

Princess are not in the ball yet here but I think they are trying to entice the competition with the 30M.
I would expect Montecarlo Yacht to offer something next year since they have a vacant spot in between the 86 and 105.
 
Thanks for the report H. Foredeck doesn need some redesign

@PYB and others: the 24m limit isn't waterline length It's load line length, which is different.
 
Erk it is a complex ish thing, but not too bad:

1. First of all imagine the boat with stuck on bits at both ends removed. Remove the bolted on swim platform, the pulpit rail and the nosecone if there is one. Then perform all measurements below on that "stripped down" boat. Some of them might not be relevant, but the nosecone usually is, if there is one.

2. Next take a profile of the boat and draw a horizontal line along the "least moulded depth". On a gin palace motorboat, that is the level of the teak deck in the aft cockpit. Normally the decks will step up along the side decks, but ignore that. Draw a line horizontally that extends the level of the aft cockpit deck all the way to the bow. Red line below.

3. Now measure 85% of the way up from the keel (strictly, the TOP of the keel) to that line (strictly, the UNDERSIDE the deck), and draw another horizontal line at that level. This will usually be a bit above the waterline. Green on picture

4. Measure the length of the boat at that line, "LENGTH A" on picture, and multiply by 0.96. THAT, after the x0.96 multiplication, is the first candidate for LLL.

5. Now measure the horizontal distance from the same point on the bow as above, to the rudder post. "LENGTH B" on picture. There is no x0.96 factor applied to this measurement. This is the second candidate for LLL.

6. LLL is greater of first and second candidates

You can see from this that if you want to make a 95 foot boat qualify as 23.99m LLL you must (a) keep the rudders a little bit forward, though not too much; (b) keep the aft deck as low as you can, but that will conflict with crew space aft and so finally (c) you have to make a removeable nosecone. It can help to make the swim platform detachable and they invariably are but if the 85% notional waterline misses the platform then it doesn't matter

You cannot apply this to all boats perfectly. IPS boats don't have rudders. Some mobos do not have a keel line parallel to the waterline. Top keel is a bit undefined in case of GRP boat. And so on. But most of the time it is a number you can get easily enough on a mobo like sunseeker 95. Its definitely not the plimsoll line.

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