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to be honest I call them Explorer Yachts, which is more correct then trawler
same for the Fleming, Nordhavn, GB and all

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I think you have to differentiate between the Nordhavn and the others you have mentioned because it is the only one with the range and seakeeping to cross oceans and be a true explorer yacht. The others are more coastal cruising boats and I think Fleming even make this point on their website. Not sure which category the OR falls into but I suspect the latter
 
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Wow,

I was looking at one of these in Queensway Quay, Gib last Thursday evening and wondering what it was. Must be a 60 or 65ft er. Definitely makes the two Fairline Squadron 58's near it look like toy boats in comparison. In the flesh they are impressive...big, solid, sharp and yet attractive in a funny way.

Go for it!

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LOL, Yeah, I was also surprised to read Trev suggestion.
I'm not sure I would advertise such boat as a "Raised Pilot House Trawler'esque style of yacht"... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Personally, I always found the "Long Range Cruiser" definition, often used in the US, pretty appropriate.
It's in fact a proper balance between "coastal", which is a tad limiting, and "explorer" which I'd leave to more extreme vessels.
All imho, as always.
 
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I think you have to differentiate between the Nordhavn and the others you have mentioned because it is the only one with the range and seakeeping to cross oceans and be a true explorer yacht. The others are more coastal cruising boats and I think Fleming even make this point on their website. Not sure which category the OR falls into but I suspect the latter

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The first Flemimg in Europe was a Fleming 50 and came from Los Angeles to Spain via the Panama canal back in the 1980's
 
yes but the case for Explorer how they call them in the states is that most of these even GB can have a 1000 nm range or close to that at some slow speeds, ok you cannot cross the Atlantic but you can do a lot with a tankful and that range
the Explorer comes also from the fact that they are slow, and even if you do slow coastal cruising you are exploring more

there was a 58 in Malta in Summer 2007 US flag, seems bigger too I guess I felt it was like 65 feet really, look good and very nice lines too
they are not so classic as a Fleming by the looks of them but looked well screwed togather
 
I would agree with you there Mike, Nordhavn is a very specific machine for a specific job and as an Ocean crosser not much to touch it in GRP if it gets really nasty.

OR are built to CE Open Ocean Cat 'A' and certainly many customers have found themselves in very poor weather upto and including storm ten and no worries, pretty tough boat. However, if you were to ask me which I would rather be in in a hurricane mid Atlantic then yes probably a big Nordhavn although I would be pretty confident the OR would hold its own but maybe a monster one over the front and no storm windows there maybe some damage. The question is I guess how many people do trans Atlantic and how many will cover several thousand miles coastal, I would suggest that 80% are the later and certainly OR's have covered 100's of thousands of miles from the Bahamas, eastern seaboard, pacific coast to Alaska and back without a hitch.

If you want the ultimate in explorer yachts then we also have within the group Molokai Straight (Steel build) which are designed for trans Ocean Voyages but the build ratio for those against OR of similar length is one to ten. Mind you they are built like a Panzer tank ! , downside of course is the limited top speed, if you get caught you just have to weather it out which I guess for those clients they accept.
 
Hi Trev

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Oh dammit, just read custom built!!

Isle of Man spec....now what would that include..... big fenders and built in drying out legs for a start.

Best of luck with the new venture.

Paul
 
Molokai Strait

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If you want the ultimate in explorer yachts then we also have within the group Molokai Straight (Steel build) which are designed for trans Ocean Voyages...

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Now why does that sound familiar?... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
But actually I agree, just a very few pleasure boaters are really interested in oceanic passages - and with good reasons. As I once heard from someone who circumnavigated twice: crossing oceans is boring at best, and scaring at worst.
In fact, I'd say that O.R. can well cover 95%, rather than just 80%, of pleasure boaters needs/wishes.
And even if I've not (yet) seen any O.R. boat in flesh, I can already foresee a brilliant future for them also in EU, based on your enthusiasm alone!
Congratulations and good luck.
 
Congrats Trevor. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Now your cooking - proper little ships. Call the design what you like but for my mind "Trawler Yacht" is the marketing term that is likely to have the widest appeal. The interior and layout the Outer Reef 63 looks even nicer than the Nordhavn equivalent. Something for SV to chew on too, might cure his Flemingitis! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

PS: The navigation bar on their web site needs to be made more useable. Too finicity for those with less than precision mouse movements! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Other than that the presentation of the boats on the web site is excellent.
 
I'm not saying that Flemings are not capable of crossing the Atlantic but they're not designed primarily for that purpose as Fleming himself says in THIS interview
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The OR's sound very good, Trev. When you feel like it, I for one would like to see more pics
 
Ok Mike, if anyone takes offence I'll remove them.

A selection of the 65 - 73 and 80 we also have a 58 - 63 - 78 - 85 - 105 and 115.


My favourite of the range the 65

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Pilot House of the 65

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Engine Room of the 65

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The 73

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Master Suite in the 73, even has walk in wardrobe ( big one)

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Gallley of the 73

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The 80, a beast of a thing with C32's :-)

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Pilot house of the 80

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we have an 80 in build at the moment for a Norwegian customer that will be commissioned at Hamble around August time, all forum friends are invited for a little 'do' and gander. Will put invite on here nearer the time. Just hope I don't get it wrong and take out the Events pontoon in one foul swoop /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
Great pics, Trev, especially the 80 pilot house. Dare I ask what sort of price level these boats are? How does the 58 compare to the Fleming 55 or Marlow 57
On the subject of Marlow, they seem to have gone really quiet in the UK after what seemed like a successful launch at SIBS 2007. Anyone know what's happened? Did Gludy ruin their business?
 
Congratulations Trev, hope it works out well for you. I guess you're not expecting Abs levels of sales, but its seems to add nicely to your dealership portfolio. There seems to be a gap for smaller cheaper boats though, 20-40' range, that may move onto Abs later, best to catch them young (in boating terms of course). Any plans?

There is a used Outer Reef for sale, 65 I think, based in Portugal, being sold through Berthons, and maybe others. I thought it looked nicely proportioned, so had a look at the photos a while back.
 
Thanks Nick, indeed other product in the pipe line which we will announce in the next couple of months. Some might say off one's trolly in this climate but it won't be like this for ever and I want to be in there fighting fit and the right portfilo of product ready for the off ! :-)

The 65 you mention is Here and on our books, she is now in Gib
 
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