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I just noticed this Poweryacht post, where he seems to be looking forward to Nautical "new Europe dealership of Outer Reef".
Now, since PY is usually well informed, I assume it wasn't a typo.
So, what's happening?
Has Trev finally seen the light, and decided to move towards proper boats? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The plot thickens...
 
yes he got the exlusive rights for Outer Reef in Europe, and he sold an 80 footer already to be delivered coming Summer
tommorow I will make a New Nodel review of there new 63

I know he has been studying these type of boats for quite some time so I wish him Nautical Trevor the best of luck in this new venture
 
Interesting and nice boat, we were only talking about this boat with the factory guys yesterday (the factory is in Stuart where the trawler fest was held last week) and they were quite impressed they are ex boat builders themselves.

I'm still a sailing person really but I could see myself heading in this direction at some point.
 
Any idea what's different about these boats? To me, they look very much like any other Far East trawler thingy. C'mon Trev, support your product /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Cor blimey !, the power of forums, is there anything that can be kept a secret round here ? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

OK , I'll come clean, yes indeed I am now Solus importer for Europe for Outer Reef Yachts

Oh dear, how am I going to explain this after four years of wittering on about Sports Cruisers and IPS etc /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif,

I 'll make a stab at it !

Different kettle of fish I guess, Outer Reef are designed as live aboard long distance yachts or Raised Pilot House if you prefer, just no way a SC or anything currently available can compete with the sheer internal volume and sea bashing ability of a heavily built semi displacement boat.

Project has been over a year in the making, I absolutely fell in love with a certain US builder of a 55' semi displacement RPH several years ago and determined that one day I would have the best RPH in our stable hence all the travelling back and forth to various yards etc. Nothing really struck me until O/R.

You know that indefinable feeling when you see something in the flesh ?, it just raises the hairs on the back of your neck and you get goose bumps , well that was it for me, by hook or by crook we were going to do business and here we are.

Lots of interesting stuff about Outer Reef and how they came about, not from a designer twiddling with his autocad but by a guy from a commercial fishing background, which when you get into the guts of the yachts you can see where he is coming from.

I better not get too excited on here or I'll have knuckles wrapped but needless to say very happy chap and really looking forward to bringing the range here and putting O/R firmly on the map.

Trev
 
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how they came about, not from a designer twiddling with his autocad but by a guy from a commercial fishing background

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I still say they are a trawler /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Maybe it's not the same in Italy but the generic term for this kind of semi d/d long distance cruising boat, particularly in the USA, is trawler yacht. I know the hull shape is far removed from that of a proper trawler but that's what they call them
 
Yup, you are going to have to do a hell of a lot of explaining, Trev, after years of pontificating about how much better sports cruisers are than flybridge boats and, here we are, you're selling lard arse flybridge boats /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Tell us a bit about their design? Are they as good as the Fleming? Will they fall apart like a Trader? Is there anything special about the hull? What sort of speed do they do?
 
Ooh, great news Trev. Good luck with the venture. Website here if anyone wants a quick look http://www.outerreefyachts.com/

You are not yet on the website - Europe enquiries appear to go to Cote D'Azur, to Mr S no doubt. Irritating website by the way, cos the back button doesn't work.

Lovely boats though. Loads better than Selene by the looks of things, so you should do well in the Med judging by the number of Selenes that sell there.
 
I'm slightly playing devil's advocate here but why are Outer Reefs so much better than Selenes? I know Selene is not a super-premium product and is a pure d hull but where are the other major differences? Certainly not in the layouts 'coz the Outer Reefs are laid out in rather the same formulaic way as all the other RPH trawler yachts on the market and not in the exterior styling which doesn't look as pretty as the Flemings
I'm not saying that the Outer Reefs are not great boats, I'm just trying to understand why
 
Yes agree website is annoying but all is in hand, wait a couple of weeks and all will be sparkly new.

Indeed, all that info will come off the website shortly and all the new info both here and rest of world will be on the new site.

We hope to do very well in the Med and beyond, old adage suppose, "trust your gut instinct", worked with ABS so fingers crossed:-)
 
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I still say they are a trawler

[/ QUOTE ]And I can see why - the term has indeed been used widely in recent years, even by some supposedly expert journalists. But it has a very specific meaning, which is interesting to consider.
If I may steal the description from someone who knew a thing ot three about these boats:

"Fast trawler” is an oxymoron. Many of the coastal cruisers are superb successful boats (such as Grand Banks, Fleming and their type), but they are not trawlers, even if their superstructures bear some resemblance to that of a fishing boat.
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A true trawler is a full displacement power vessel with a relatively deep ballasted hull, with low center of gravity and high weight-carrying capacity relative to its size. It is designed for cargo capability, fuel capacity (distance) and safety in bad seas. Commercial trawlers “trawl” – i.e. drag nets to catch fish. They go to sea for days and weeks, sometimes months at a time, with no turning back for gales. They need torque to drag those nets and a boat capable of handling torque. Then they have to carry the fish home, which represents a lot of weight, so they need serious cargo capability and stability under load.
 
I am not an expert on all brands in the market and there is some jolly fine product out there. For me though O/R pushes all the right buttons, close too they look a little sharper on the design front and exceptionally well proportioned, bit like RJ Mitchell, who I think it was watching birds flying and then sketched the outline for the Spitfire, no idea whether it would work but that instinctive first glance you know it just looks right and does what it is supposed to. I am not suggesting similar iconic status but you get the jist :-).

All O/R are built using just three moulds so you have huge flexibility on interior layout and here's is probably the biggest advantage, you can have what ever you desire, we are custom build so if you want three cabins / four cabins. smaller/bigger crew quarters, any choice of machinery, finishes, wood , fabrics, electronic suites, what ever you want we will build it.

The hull is very efficient too, at lower speeds, the 63 will do a comfortable 10 knts at 1.3 mpg which is pretty good for 45 tons SD. Then of course if the mood takes you dependant on engine specified you can blast up to 21knts.
 
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from someone who knew a thing ot three about these boats

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...though, he didn't seem to know what torque is :-)
 
Trev has beaten me to it but OR is a semi custom build and can go faster, if you want. Selene is more production boat (and very nice too)
 
You have a point there, but the statement is taken from a colloquial booklet, and in this respect it does give the idea, doesn't it?
 
Mario, yes I know that and I know that the use of the word 'trawler yacht' is not technically correct but that's what this type of boat is known as, rightly or wrongly. Anyway, we have been given permission to call the OR a RPH Trawleresque boat so I'll use that from now
 
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The hull is very efficient too, at lower speeds, the 63 will do a comfortable 10 knts at 1.3 mpg which is pretty good for 45 tons SD

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Yup that is good and better, if I remember correctly, than a similar sized Nordhavn
 
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