STOP and she thought I said MORE

[Trident 24]

Back in the day

In caving circles, before SRT became popular communicating over the noise of a waterfall was fairly important....especially if you were in the waterfall.

We used a simple mnemonic: SUD (Stop, Up, Down)

It didn't matter if you used a whistle, shouts or flashes of light...1 was stop, 2 was up & 3 was down.

 

[jamesbell]

Are any of these any good,

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Search/searchTerms/TWO+WAY+RADIO.htm

 

[alan_d]

Last week SWIMBO and I had a problem . I shouted " STOP " and she thought I said "MORE".

Perhaps that is why the traditional nautical command to stop was AVAST (or 'VAST), as in " 'Vast heaving!".

 

[sarabande]

FWIW we have more or less standardised on hoisting signals for agricultural loaders and trailers.

What about a modified version of the crane signals for boats? Can be used with the bowperson's back to the coxswain as well.

DIRECTION

Hand UP - Go forwards
Hand to STBD - Steer to Starboard
Hand to PORT - Steer to Port
Hand DOWN - Go astern


SPEED - Index finger of the other hand pointing upwards; SLOW horizontal rotation for SLOWLY; FAST rotation for FASTLY.

COAST in Neutral - both arms held horizontally.

STOP - BOTH hands crossed above head


Signals can be made with a heaving line or mooring warp in one hand

 

[fergie_mac66]

kids duplex headset are available several makers and style
I think this is one type

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/119...ie-talkie-headse.html?srcid=369&CodePromo=oui

 

[Boathook]

Hand signals, and most people understand the basic ones I have found. If not sure discuss them so that you both understand. The helm being aware as to what is happening also helps and this can be normally achieved by discussing what is likely to happen before hand.

 

[dmmbruce]

FWIW we have more or less standardised on hoisting signals for agricultural loaders and trailers.

What about a modified version of the crane signals for boats? Can be used with the bowperson's back to the coxswain as well.

DIRECTION

Hand UP - Go forwards
Hand to STBD - Steer to Starboard
Hand to PORT - Steer to Port
Hand DOWN - Go astern


SPEED - Index finger of the other hand pointing upwards; SLOW horizontal rotation for SLOWLY; FAST rotation for FASTLY.

COAST in Neutral - both arms held horizontally.

STOP - BOTH hands crossed above head


Signals can be made with a heaving line or mooring warp in one hand

This works well, if used with commonsense.

Mike

 

[onesea]

Whats signal for 3 metres , 2 metres , I metre etc or youve hit the @@%^&*( quay etc or theres an under water projection close up ?

Distances is finger counting, if you point at your foot then its feet not meters.

Smaller than a couple of feet hold your hand apart and show them visually.

Approaching a mooing buoy use the boat hook to point at the buoy so the helm can see where the buoy is (if your on the bow and know the helm is going to fast point at "near edge of buoy" ).

The helm does not need to know there is an underwater obstruction, he just needs to follow your signals...

If the helm does not trust them enough a radio is not going to help IMO.

Hand signals, and most people understand the basic ones I have found. If not sure discuss them so that you both understand. The helm being aware as to what is happening also helps and this can be normally achieved by discussing what is likely to happen before hand.

+1

 

[catmandoo]

Hand signals versus radio

All thats very nice ! and thank you all for the information however all I want to know is does any one know where I can get such a radio device in the UK - No answers yet to my direct question

 

[Robin]

We bought these http://www.eartec.com/Boating/eartecboatingsim.html?tp=CONTINUE+SHOPPING

These Eartec ones are excellent but a bit pricey at $300, we now have them on our boat in the USA. Eartec will ship worldwide and the radios are even EC approved. I adapted the kids toy ones when we were in the UK to fit adult heads by cutting and inserting a ladies plastic headband into the over the head bit, then taped in place with amalgamating tape, they looked naff but worked fine. There are adult ones on saled in the USA but at around $70 I didn't see the point over my kids ones I paid about £15 all up for.

The point where these sets score over the handheld radios plus hands free is that the handhelds are not duplex and the voice operated changeover is a PITA, whereas even the kids toy ones are duplex.

 

[Jim@sea]

What about these things that motorcyclists us to talk to each other from bike to bike.

 

[rustybouy]

i would second the electrical route, little UHF walkie talkie, plug in your discreet head sets.....................and then just look really cool man

 

[charles_reed]

If the helmsperson isn't looking at the bow person, where the heck are they looking?

Duplex headsets are certainly the right way to do it if you decide to do any electronic messaging.

At where they're going?

One benefit of single-handed sailing is a lack of such comms problems.
I've seen the handheld being used with a remote to the main VHF, using Ch 17/18 as they are auto low-power.

 

[flobbets]

Bluetooth solution?

I got one of these http://www.deckband.co.uk/ . Works well and also acts as a MOB alarm. I got mine on ebay - they're blummin expensive otherwise!
Mike

 

[fergie_mac66]

All thats very nice ! and thank you all for the information however all I want to know is does any one know where I can get such a radio device in the UK - No answers yet to my direct question

i did

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/119...ie-talkie-headse.html?srcid=369&CodePromo=oui

i believe hamleys in london sell some aswell .. i know kids stuff but they work upto 100meters and only about 26£

Edit: have met a few people who have used them .. some have had to modify the over head band

 

[rogerthebodger]

I got one of these http://www.deckband.co.uk/ . Works well and also acts as a MOB alarm. I got mine on ebay - they're blummin expensive otherwise!
Mike

That's the device I have been looking a long time for.

Where on Ebay did you get it from please.

 

[Rigger Mortice]

Perhaps that is why the traditional nautical command to stop was AVAST (or 'VAST), as in " 'Vast heaving!".

I'm pretty sure that my SWMBO would hear that as "FAST", and wind the throttle up!

 

[flobbets]

Deckband

That's the device I have been looking a long time for.

Where on Ebay did you get it from please.

Seller's ebay ID is ebordingle. Just checked and they have none for sale at the moment. I thought perhaps they were something to do with the manufacturers since they replaced the base unit when I had a problem charging it. Perhaps contact them via ebay?
Mike

 

[Frankie-H]

How about a bloody great loudspeaker up in the crosstrees. That way everybody within 100 mtrs will know what should have been done.

 

[Trident 24]

used?

a 'pre loved' (yuk) pair: http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/motorola-xtr446-pmr-446-two-way-radios-with-headsets/100681950