Stone Point Survey

Dunno what all the fuss is about

You throw the big heavy thing off the pointy end, when the string is not going straight up and down you tie it to the sticky up bit and Bob is your mothers brother

Or am I doing it wrong? :D
 
Everybody drags sometimes, it is not the end of the world and no shame can be heaped upon the draggee, unless they try and anchor with 5 metres of chain in 6 metres of water. Some bits of the bottom near Stone Point are, I suspect, a bit gloopy and I have been both the draggee and the dragged on to in this location. Have always lived to tell the tale. It can get a bit busy at times and when folks are in close proximity it is difficult to predict exactly how a variety of boats will behave as the tide rises and turns.
 
Agree Toutvabien.... and one of the pleasures, and yet also challenges, of East Coast anchorages is the wide variety of different vessels that appear.... and therefore exhibit vastly different behaviours when at anchor.

I too have dragged and been dragged onto.... its never a problem really though.
 
Understand from another reliable source that, conditions suitable, it is planned to plough dredge the channel at Stone Banks on Tuesday 31st July. Hopefully this will resolve any problems & lay to rest any concerns over anchoring.

As it is the WFYC Annual Open Race Week, we will be on the water every day so will keep you updated.
 
I went to Titchmarsh at half rising tide on Wednesday. I was amazed how tight that turn at no.16 has got - there was a 50footer in front of me and he didn't leave much room for anybody else. I was also surprised by the eddies that form just off the (pirates) beach. There were several anchored a bit further in where we have in the past.

I came out a half falling tide this morning - I draw 1.7m - and wouldn't have wanted to be an hour later.
 
Dredging complete.

First impressions is that the channel is now over CD 1.0 m on clay. Spoil dumped in large hole on that area.

Will have a better look tomorrow & report back.

Any observations by passing traffic (or anchorers) gratefully received.
 
MoodySabre said:
I went to Titchmarsh at half rising tide on Wednesday. I was amazed how tight that turn at no.16 has got - there was a 50footer in front of me and he didn't leave much room for anybody else. I was also surprised by the eddies that form just off the (pirates) beach. There were several anchored a bit further in where we have in the past.

I came out a half falling tide this morning - I draw 1.7m - and wouldn't have wanted to be an hour later.
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thats made me think......lol we was hoping to get to titshmarsh about LW friday and go on the waiting pontoon but dont know now if the creek is that shallow
 
nortada said:
Any observations by passing traffic (or anchorers) gratefully received.
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It would have been nice to know all this before we returned this afternoon, but my dongle had run out while were at Tollesbury and I didn't feel like paying for wifi. The result was that we arrived at Stone Point at half-ebb to find "there's no red buoy!". I followed what I thought was the reciprocal of our course when leaving last week to find not a lot of water at all, whereas we had had over 2m one hour after LW neaps when leaving. Checking my track later showed that I had strayed a little to the west of the earlier track, which is clearly not a good place to be.
 
Wathched the dredging yesterday- Dredger was there possibly 2 hours. Departed just after high water. At low water I went down and surveyed the area with dinghy and outboard. There was no significant change at the shallowest spot between Plumtrees and the Starboard can. max depth at low water was 1.5m. It seemed that the dredger was working further down stream out of the channel. Rather sceptical if much has been done. I don,t know what was done today as we left before the dredger arrived.
Interested in more reports.
 
johnalison said:
It would have been nice to know all this before we returned this afternoon, but my dongle had run out while were at Tollesbury and I didn't feel like paying for wifi. The result was that we arrived at Stone Point at half-ebb to find "there's no red buoy!". I followed what I thought was the reciprocal of our course when leaving last week to find not a lot of water at all, whereas we had had over 2m one hour after LW neaps when leaving. Checking my track later showed that I had strayed a little to the west of the earlier track, which is clearly not a good place to be.
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CG has been broadcasting Local Notice to Mariners since at least Sat 27th with weather.
 
I have been advised that after the dredging of the last couple of days that the datum depth in the area is now nearer 1m. I am waiting for official confirmation of this. The dredger initially was going to work 2 hours either side of HW but the depth limitations restricted this to 1 hour. Also the tidal flow caused its own problems for the working vessels. No.16 mark was removed during the dredging operation. It should now be back in place. I have not been advised otherwise.

Nortada is due to try and get a better indication by quickly surveying the area today/tomorrow. He will publish his findings here.

It is hoped that Harwich Haven will do another survey of the area in the near future to identify what changes, if any, the dredging operation has made.

Any official info that I am advised on will be publish on the W&FYC website, but I will link to it from here. The website will only publish official notifications and not those from unoffical sources, to try and avoid any contradicatory information being released.
 
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Unofficial Look at Stone Point 1 Aug 12

Captain Pete will continue to publish the official line on the W&FYC web site.

In its absence the following unofficial results were obtained.

It must be stressed that, because of time constraints, only one pass was made. Additionally, Plumtree (R16) had not been replaced so the survey consisted transiting between the green & red buoys available.

The surrounding sea-state was flat but there was significant turbulence between Red 12 & Red 14.

The following results were obtained inbound to Stone Point (all depths reduced to chart datum):

Red 12 to Red 14 minimum depth CD+ 0.7 but very shallow (possibly drying) just port of channel (over the past few weeks a number of vessels have grounded in this area).

Red 14 to Green 9 depth CD+ 1.2.

Green 9 to previous position of Plumtree Red 16 CD +0.7 (shallowest point in vicinity of Plumtree).

Believe if vessels transit direct Green 9 to Ingle Green 11 there is a severe risk of grounding!

Plumtree to Ingle Green 11 depth gradually increases to CD +2m.

Ingle Green 11 to Green 13 depth gradually increases to CD +3m.

It must be stress that this is the result of a single buoy crawl & there could be significantly more (or less) water on parallel tracks.

Anticipate we will be operating in this area over the next few days & will attempt to confirm & refine these results.

Observations of transiting vessels as PMs or on open forum would be most appreciated.
 
nortada said:
Captain Pete will continue to publish the official line on the W&FYC web site.

In its absence the following unofficial results were obtained.

It must be stressed that, because of time constraints, only one pass was made. Additionally, Plumtree (R16) had not been replaced so the survey consisted transiting between the green & red buoys available.

The surrounding sea-state was flat but there was significant turbulence between Red 12 & Red 14.

The following results were obtained inbound to Stone Point (all depths reduced to chart datum):

Red 12 to Red 14 minimum depth CD+ 0.7 but very shallow (possibly drying) just port of channel (over the past few weeks a number of vessels have grounded in this area).

Red 14 to Green 9 depth CD+ 1.2.

Green 9 to previous position of Plumtree Red 16 CD +0.7 (shallowest point in vicinity of Plumtree).

Believe if vessels transit direct Green 9 to Ingle Green 11 there is a severe risk of grounding!

Plumtree to Ingle Green 11 depth gradually increases to CD +2m.

Ingle Green 11 to Green 13 depth gradually increases to CD +3m.

It must be stress that this is the result of a single buoy crawl & there could be significantly more (or less) water on parallel tracks.

Anticipate we will be operating in this area over the next few days & will attempt to confirm & refine these results.

Observations of transiting vessels as PMs or on open forum would be most appreciated.
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Is number sixteen going back in, and if it not, are there some clearance bearings we could use?

Thanks for the updates!
 
photodog said:
Is number sixteen going back in, and if it not, are there some clearance bearings we could use?

Thanks for the updates!
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Yes, second that. Thanks for all the work and info, but I'm now getting confused as a) I don't know the area well at all (only been in twice) and b) my charts will be inaccurate.

Any chance of some instructions for coming in?

thanks!
Lisa
 
ChattingLil said:
Yes, second that. Thanks for all the work and info, but I'm now getting confused as a) I don't know the area well at all (only been in twice) and b) my charts will be inaccurate.

Any chance of some instructions for coming in?

thanks!
Lisa
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I think if number 16 is missing... Then it's best to go in say 1 hour before high water... Ala 12.30 or so tommorrow... Number 16 is right off the tip of stone point and you need to make a turn to stbd at that point... But near high water there should be enough to feel your way in without too much trouble... Or follow some other guy who draws more the you!

We draw nearly two meters... So I may be being a bit paranoid..
 
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