Stolen Boat – You want to find it ??

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So, the weekend has arrived and you make your way to the Marina where your beloved motor cruiser, narrowboat, yacht, fishing boat is moored.

You make your way to the pontoon with your life-jackets, food and other paraphernalia for a weekend afloat only to find she’s gone!!

STOLEN . . . there is nothing more sickening than that? Someone is in your boat and they have no right to it. Further more, where do you turn? Who do you phone the police, harbourmaster, coastguard local boat owners . . . .? All they initially will do is take notes and record your loss in a book. Your £150,000 (or at my end of the financial scale £5,000) asset is somewhere else and in someone else’s hands!

Perhaps you should have bought that expensive bit of kit that is fitted to high end cars, once installed, a quick phone call to their Head Office allows them to turn on the device and a signal is then transmitted from your boat and can be traced by the British police using the four aerials in quadrant formation on a large number of police traffic cars and the police helicopters belonging to the 52 police forces.

This equipment is expensive, hundreds of pounds and the installation cost can push the equipment costs to well over £1,000 and then there are ongoing, recurring annual fees. These can be over £150 per annum at today’s prices.

Can I suggest an alternative? Buy a cheap mobile telephone, “Pay-As-You-Go” type and permanently install it and connect it to the boats’ power supply using the 12 volt trickle charger. Turn the mobile phone ringing tone to ‘silent, non vibrate’ (make sure it can be non-vibrate) so that it never rings. I recommend it is hidden within the boat and as high as possible so that it is able to ‘transmit’ and ‘receive’ to and from the shore based mobile telephone masts. For long term protection seal it in a poly-bag with silica-gel as moisture especially sea-water has a detrimental effect on the internal electronics or mobile phones as they are not really designed to be permanently afloat.

Now join one of the many “child locate” facilities that now exist within the UK and register the phone. One of the cheapest available is: http://www.verilocation.com/mobile_phone_tracking.aspx it is not necessarily the best or the cheapest but it is a method which will give peace of mind and costs about £70 per year. This company also do more dedicated GPS based units which will cost more money to purchase and use. You can even use two phones and have one permanently installed in your car too so whilst you are at sea . . . . . ? Some mobile tracking companies allow up to 5 mobile phones to be registered (5 children).

This is only a suggestion, primarily for UK boat owners and hopefully with the current state of technology, the cost of this type of equipment will remain stable and can be of use by some boat owners?

If you do use a “Pay-As-You-Go” mobile phone for this type of application, don’t forget that they have to make outgoing calls at least once every three months or so otherwise you will either lose the number or loose any credit remaining on the SIM card. Check with the service provider about this detail.
 
Nah /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif how would they geddit off your sandbank Ken?

cheers Joe
 
That's amazing. I didn't know that was available to the public. Matter of time before mobiles are equppied with a DSC style Big Red Button that links to emergency services in case you get mugged, have a road accident, etc.

I wonder what the company's policy is on hotlinking to a scud missile? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
anywhere your phone will normally work off the UK coast, depending on which mobile phone provider (Orange, Vodafone etc). They can only track down to the cell within transmitter range though, so far less accurate where few masts than in middle of a city where it is possible to triangulate from a few masts to within a few metres.

So for instance it would work very well in the Solent, but don't expect much tracking offshore several miles or off largely uninhabited coastline

It doesn't have to be one of the child tracking services either. There are many others for tracking vehicles, employees etc that use exactly the same technology
 
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Boats are easy to pinch very little in th way of security cars are much better but would not advise car like alarms/immobilisers as they can go wrong which could be dangerous

My advice is fit hidden battery switches cheap and easy to do but remember the bilge pump so wire that separately

also have a separate ignition cut out again hidden

might not seem much but is cheap and effective as it is harder to nic an immobile boat as in it will need to be towed which is not easy from your mooring i think that if the theives cant hot wire it then they will give up
 
btw they gadget that phones you to tell you when your boat has been pinched is a bit usless why well all very well but by the time you get the message the boat is long gone best for this scenario is a well hidden tracker
 
I thought most tracking systems actually use a mobile phone network anyway. They consist of a GPS receiver connected to a mobile phone. OK, they look like one box and have lots of goodies like bluetooth to recognise you key etc but they still need the phone network to communicate the position back to the control center. Once the boat's outside mobile phone range whihc is often not much around the coast, it's lost to the system. Maybe there's an opportunity for a VHF based one that can be tracked by coastie. The range would be far more.
 
I suspect it's a case of, if you think you can build market and sell one at a reasonable market rate that people will actually buy, then off you go and make your millions. No reason that they cannot be connected to satellite phone network etc, but the boat or car would have to be worth a significant sum to make it worth the cost

The advantage of purely phone based tracking is cost of installation. Very cheap, but does not have any activation that car based trackers have etc.
 
Re: Stolen Boat &#8211; You want to find it ??

Im sure the idea could help track a stolen boat but I would prefer some difficult to remove method of stopping the boat being moved in the first place.

Has anyone heard of a prop shaft lock? Or a means of locking the rudder hard over? A loud shed alarm would probably attract some attention in a marina ,but useless in an isolated mooring area.

A century ago Slocum had some success with drawing pins on the deck for barefoot tribesmen sneaking aboard in remote bits of his circumnavigation of the world.Nowadays they probably have combat boots and kalshnikovs /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
Yes but...

You need to leave a note for the thief, to tell then to check the phone periodically.

If the phone gets a message saying 'This phones location is being monitored, do you accept', advise the thief to reply YES.

It's a real [--word removed--] this EC Directive on Privacy and Electronic Communications.

I'm afraid the answer is to have a purpose made asset tracking system. Assets don't have privacy rights, mobile phones are considered personal and the system you describe cannot distinguish between the one on your boat, the one carried by your child, and the one used by the employee you have under suspision - f'rinstance.
 
An American friend of mine used to remove his tiller when leaving his boat in his home mooring. He would replace it with a short piece of stainless that padlocked onto a convenient bulkhead. Not only did this keep the rudder set straight it also present any potential thieves with crude but effective steering lock. (His boat was 36 feet with an open rear cockpit and worth a bob or 2). I can believe that having some sort of obvious and impenetrable wheel lock would send all,but the most determined thief to another boat. If your boat lodges on inland waterways then a homebuilt phone tracker seems sensible. But a few miles off shore that idea does work so well - especially if the phone is mounted down below at sea level. nice thought though...
 
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