cariad
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Has anybody seen/heard from him today? Or has he sailed off into the blurry sunrise this morning???
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Stingo????
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Magic_Sailor
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I suspect he's still in blurry bed.
Were you there and I didn't see you?
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Were you there and I didn't see you?
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Stingo
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I am here. Look at the party photos <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.stingo.co.uk>http://www.stingo.co.uk <font color=blue>- now showing at a computer near you</font color=blue>
Jools_of_Top_Cat
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Stingo\'s grab bag
Just had a look at your nav station, looks good and expensive, I like the layout I think it will work out well.
Noticed your grab bag on the door, go on, tell us what's in it, enquiring minds an all that, lets open Singos grab bag, we might all learn something /forums/images/icons/smile.gif.
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Just had a look at your nav station, looks good and expensive, I like the layout I think it will work out well.
Noticed your grab bag on the door, go on, tell us what's in it, enquiring minds an all that, lets open Singos grab bag, we might all learn something /forums/images/icons/smile.gif.
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Stingo
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
I'll tell you what's in it and I'd like to hear from others what they would add/remove, considering the limited space/floatation requirements.
EPRIB (not GPS type)
Hand-held GPS (plus spare batteries)
Hand-held VHF
Iridium Satellite phone (plus spare batteries)
Flares (waste of time, space and money IMHO)
Torch (plus spare batteries)
Passports
Ships documentation
Cash (US$ and I'm not telling how little)
Credit Card
That little black book with the contact details of 10 000 of my closest mates
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I'll tell you what's in it and I'd like to hear from others what they would add/remove, considering the limited space/floatation requirements.
EPRIB (not GPS type)
Hand-held GPS (plus spare batteries)
Hand-held VHF
Iridium Satellite phone (plus spare batteries)
Flares (waste of time, space and money IMHO)
Torch (plus spare batteries)
Passports
Ships documentation
Cash (US$ and I'm not telling how little)
Credit Card
That little black book with the contact details of 10 000 of my closest mates
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
I would add drinking water, food, a spear gun and a 121.5 airband radio.
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I would add drinking water, food, a spear gun and a 121.5 airband radio.
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claymore
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
I would add Mars Bars - after all, you may get hungry or meet up with Marianne Faithfull
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Claymore
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I would add Mars Bars - after all, you may get hungry or meet up with Marianne Faithfull
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Claymore
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jimi
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
I'd add a kite, it might help to add motion, ease boredom, increase visibility!
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I'd add a kite, it might help to add motion, ease boredom, increase visibility!
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Stingo
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
Perhaps some more detail is needed here.
Starting at the companionway is the grab-bag with the EPRIB (transmits on both 406 & 121 Mhz) etc in it. As you exit, the cockpit locker on your right (port side of boat) has the following and placed in order of importance and all tied together such that you can throw one thing overboard at a time;
Liferaft (Coastal spec),
Two fresh water containers (with enough air so they float),
2nd Grab bag with thermal suits & more flares,
First aid kit,
Fishing kit,
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Perhaps some more detail is needed here.
Starting at the companionway is the grab-bag with the EPRIB (transmits on both 406 & 121 Mhz) etc in it. As you exit, the cockpit locker on your right (port side of boat) has the following and placed in order of importance and all tied together such that you can throw one thing overboard at a time;
Liferaft (Coastal spec),
Two fresh water containers (with enough air so they float),
2nd Grab bag with thermal suits & more flares,
First aid kit,
Fishing kit,
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Stingo
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
Great mind's think alike. How about a nice 6ft luminous orange one that is steerable and has a whistle attached so that it makes an incredible racket when speeding across the sky? Just like the one stowed next to my liferaft, the same one we talked about the other day.
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Great mind's think alike. How about a nice 6ft luminous orange one that is steerable and has a whistle attached so that it makes an incredible racket when speeding across the sky? Just like the one stowed next to my liferaft, the same one we talked about the other day.
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Jools_of_Top_Cat
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
that is a really good idea, I am gonna buy a kite!
a lot of people put sturgeon<s> in, and salt tablets, if its hot you don't want to be puking your hydration. Do you have a good knife in there?
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that is a really good idea, I am gonna buy a kite!
a lot of people put sturgeon<s> in, and salt tablets, if its hot you don't want to be puking your hydration. Do you have a good knife in there?
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Forbsie
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
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Jacket
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
This may sound silly, but having spent a few hours bobbing around in a liferaft, I think its vital. Include a few freezer bags for throwing up into (they take up no room). No matter how immune to seasickness you are, in anything other than a flat calm you will throw up. If its rough, opening the entrance cover won't be a good idea, and if you should throw up in the raft the smell will finish you off.
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This may sound silly, but having spent a few hours bobbing around in a liferaft, I think its vital. Include a few freezer bags for throwing up into (they take up no room). No matter how immune to seasickness you are, in anything other than a flat calm you will throw up. If its rough, opening the entrance cover won't be a good idea, and if you should throw up in the raft the smell will finish you off.
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Stingo
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
Excellent idea jacket!!
Are you going to tell us more about your ordeal in a liferaft?
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Excellent idea jacket!!
Are you going to tell us more about your ordeal in a liferaft?
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Jacket
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
The 'ordeal' was my own silly fault for getting involved in a rather enthuiastic Royal Navy sea survival course. When I left school I took a year out, and spent some of that time helping run a Naval cadet section. One winter I took a group of cadets down to Portsmouth to do a half day sea survival course. It was far harder than i'd ever imagined. It was january, temperature was not much above freezing, it was blowing F7 and the wind chill was -9.
Wearing a survival suit and lifejacket we had to jump off a 20 foot platform into the sea, swim 100 yards to a liferaft and climb in. I couldn't believe how much the cold seawater takes out of you. Apparently, jumping into water that cold stops your heart beating for a couple of seconds, and belive me, you could feel it as you jumped in!
The 100m swim seems to go on for ever. After about 20m youe limbs have turned to jelly. The hardest bits not the cold, but the waves breaking over your face- I can see why face covers on lifejackets are a good idea. on finally reaching the liferaft you're faced with the hardest part- climbing in. Bear in mind that we were in relatively sheltered water (2 foot waves max) - out at sea I don't think I'd have managed to get in. while the liferaft did have a ladder, it seemed tomove independently of the liferaft in the waves. Your limbs have lost all strength, and with no feeling in your feet, its almost impossible to tell whether you've got them on the ladder or not. also, an inflated lifejacket really gets in the way. however, I wouldn't recomend deflating it to make things easier- by that stage I don't think I could have swum unaided.
When I finally got in, a simulated wave knocked me back out again (ie. a big butch wren lifted me up with one hand, and threw me back out again. This time I was so knackered that there was no way I could have got back in unaided. It took two people already in the raft to help me back in.
What really surprised me was how much difference the cold and waves make. This was the hardest thing I think i've ever done. Even now, several years later, the thought of having to do it in ernest terrifies me. However, six months later, I did the same course on a warm summers day, and what had been a nightmare before was easy. All I can say is that in a storm, stay with the boat as long as you can. And whatever happens, make sure you step from the boat straight into the liferaft. If you ended up in the water and had to swim to the raft and climb in in a gale, I think the chances of surviving are minimal.
The 3 hours in the liferaft came on the afternoon of the first course. in the morning we'd only spent about 20 minutes in the raft, in sheltered water, yet 5 people were sick, and we all felt ill. I was asking what conditions in a raft were like at sea, and unfortunately it wa sthis curiosity that did for me. they towed the raft around to a more exposed location, and me and 4 other volunteers were left in it for just over 3 hours. We'd all been sick within 10 minutes. bout an hour in, someone had been sick within the raft. after that, there was no hope for any of us- the smell ment that we were almost continually retching, even though there was nothing left to come up. The thought of days in a raft in storm conditions just isn't bearable.
The day really made me realise how hard life in a raft is. No matter how bad things appear on a yacht, it will be infinately worse in a raft. Although I carry a liferaft, I can assure you I'll never be gettin into it until the decks are awash!
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The 'ordeal' was my own silly fault for getting involved in a rather enthuiastic Royal Navy sea survival course. When I left school I took a year out, and spent some of that time helping run a Naval cadet section. One winter I took a group of cadets down to Portsmouth to do a half day sea survival course. It was far harder than i'd ever imagined. It was january, temperature was not much above freezing, it was blowing F7 and the wind chill was -9.
Wearing a survival suit and lifejacket we had to jump off a 20 foot platform into the sea, swim 100 yards to a liferaft and climb in. I couldn't believe how much the cold seawater takes out of you. Apparently, jumping into water that cold stops your heart beating for a couple of seconds, and belive me, you could feel it as you jumped in!
The 100m swim seems to go on for ever. After about 20m youe limbs have turned to jelly. The hardest bits not the cold, but the waves breaking over your face- I can see why face covers on lifejackets are a good idea. on finally reaching the liferaft you're faced with the hardest part- climbing in. Bear in mind that we were in relatively sheltered water (2 foot waves max) - out at sea I don't think I'd have managed to get in. while the liferaft did have a ladder, it seemed tomove independently of the liferaft in the waves. Your limbs have lost all strength, and with no feeling in your feet, its almost impossible to tell whether you've got them on the ladder or not. also, an inflated lifejacket really gets in the way. however, I wouldn't recomend deflating it to make things easier- by that stage I don't think I could have swum unaided.
When I finally got in, a simulated wave knocked me back out again (ie. a big butch wren lifted me up with one hand, and threw me back out again. This time I was so knackered that there was no way I could have got back in unaided. It took two people already in the raft to help me back in.
What really surprised me was how much difference the cold and waves make. This was the hardest thing I think i've ever done. Even now, several years later, the thought of having to do it in ernest terrifies me. However, six months later, I did the same course on a warm summers day, and what had been a nightmare before was easy. All I can say is that in a storm, stay with the boat as long as you can. And whatever happens, make sure you step from the boat straight into the liferaft. If you ended up in the water and had to swim to the raft and climb in in a gale, I think the chances of surviving are minimal.
The 3 hours in the liferaft came on the afternoon of the first course. in the morning we'd only spent about 20 minutes in the raft, in sheltered water, yet 5 people were sick, and we all felt ill. I was asking what conditions in a raft were like at sea, and unfortunately it wa sthis curiosity that did for me. they towed the raft around to a more exposed location, and me and 4 other volunteers were left in it for just over 3 hours. We'd all been sick within 10 minutes. bout an hour in, someone had been sick within the raft. after that, there was no hope for any of us- the smell ment that we were almost continually retching, even though there was nothing left to come up. The thought of days in a raft in storm conditions just isn't bearable.
The day really made me realise how hard life in a raft is. No matter how bad things appear on a yacht, it will be infinately worse in a raft. Although I carry a liferaft, I can assure you I'll never be gettin into it until the decks are awash!
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Jools_of_Top_Cat
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Life in a raft
Makes you realise how dire life was for the robinsons, this is the type of article that should appear more in the mags, to help people be prepared for the worst. Although I am not sure that I could carry the equipment you will have had including survival suit and big crew to help you into the raft, I guess I had better stay out of the water when it is cold!
Thank you for sharing
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Makes you realise how dire life was for the robinsons, this is the type of article that should appear more in the mags, to help people be prepared for the worst. Although I am not sure that I could carry the equipment you will have had including survival suit and big crew to help you into the raft, I guess I had better stay out of the water when it is cold!
Thank you for sharing
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qsiv
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
Thats a really useful insight - the seasickness issue has never been significantly stressed much in any reading I've done - and I ve just finished re-reading the book on the Hobart storm of a few years ago - not once do I recall seasickness being mentioned. Perhaps it was the image of a chopper having to 'vault' an incoming wave as the pilot looked UP at the crest that drove other facts from my mind....
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Thats a really useful insight - the seasickness issue has never been significantly stressed much in any reading I've done - and I ve just finished re-reading the book on the Hobart storm of a few years ago - not once do I recall seasickness being mentioned. Perhaps it was the image of a chopper having to 'vault' an incoming wave as the pilot looked UP at the crest that drove other facts from my mind....
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tome
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
If you do a sea survival course these things are covered. First thing you do once secured in raft is issue seasick pills to everyone including self. Personally, I'd issue them from first aid kit as soon as liferaft is even contempalted to give them a chance to work.
As mentioned elsewhere it can also get very warm in a liferaft if fully populated.
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If you do a sea survival course these things are covered. First thing you do once secured in raft is issue seasick pills to everyone including self. Personally, I'd issue them from first aid kit as soon as liferaft is even contempalted to give them a chance to work.
As mentioned elsewhere it can also get very warm in a liferaft if fully populated.
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aod
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Re: Stingo\'s grab bag
Don't forget the jar of Vaseline and a delectable Debora with real hair
(Come to think of it that reminds me of your last blow up girlfriend)
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Don't forget the jar of Vaseline and a delectable Debora with real hair
(Come to think of it that reminds me of your last blow up girlfriend)
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