rogerthebodger
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Sorry where does it say the ferry is made of steel.
Most cat type hydrofoil ferries are made of aluminium these days
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Sorry where does it say the ferry is made of steel.
Most cat type hydrofoil ferries are made of aluminium these days
GHA
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Prob going full wack @ about 40Kts, hits an object with enough severity that more than 80 passengers were injured, several seriously and still made it back to port OK, just an hour behind schedule.
I'd be plenty happy having a hull made from the same material.
dom
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13 people seriously injured; how awful and unbelievably bad luck. First and foremost wishing all of them a full and swift recovery; I wonder if some sort of forward facing sonar ‘might’ help avoid repeats?
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Brent Swain
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The suggestion repeatedly given here, is empty your fire extinguishers on the fire, and when that has been done ,and the fire burns on, abandon ship and watch her burn. Don't try seal her airtight , because that is Brent's suggestion, and doing that would be "unstylish". Not opposing that kind of thinking is definitely "dangerous, " especially in mid ocean, far from any help ,or other boats.
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Prob going full wack @ about 40Kts, hits an object with enough severity that more than 80 passengers were injured, several seriously and still made it back to port OK, just an hour behind schedule.
I'd be plenty happy having a hull made from the same material.
Cruising boats dont do 40 knots or carry 80 people
DownWest
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Again, putting your spin on what people say, rather than engaging in rational discussion. You talk about 'straw men' then use them all the time yourself.
Crisby
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Why, just why oh why would you do that??!
john_morris_uk
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Can you please reference anywhere in these forums or in this thread where anyone has suggested doing exactly this? You say it’s been suggested ‘repeatedly’. Give a few examples. Good luck.
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NormanS
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Surely this thread has run for long enough. Following it, some of us have learned some of the pros and cons of the building, maintenance, and sailing of steel boats. Indeed there has been some really useful and knowledgeable input from some with genuine and practical experience, regarding the avoidance of corrosion, which is probably seen as one of the major problems with steel boats. So a very useful thread.
However, it has degenerated into childish argument, for argument's sake, as typified by the above quote. For goodness' sake, give it a rest. School playgrounds exhibit greater maturity.
Resolution
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Very true. But I suspect the "players" are aiming for 1,000 posts and 100 pages before letting us off.
john_morris_uk
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Very true. But I suspect the "players" are aiming for 1,000 posts and 100 pages before letting us off.
I've adjusted my settings so I'm only on twenty pages atm...
Just sayin.
dom
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Very true. But I suspect the "players" are aiming for 1,000 posts and 100 pages before letting us off.
Lol, though to be fair I think jm was considering wrapping-up this thread, but was met with a wave of resistance (including me :ambivalence
that it might be best to let it run on the basis of the odd useful snippet on steel maintenance and some vague sense of supporting free speech. The result: a thread which drones endlessly on; none of the raised safety, certification, stability issues have been addressed; and the odd useful steel maintenance idea has given way to fanaticism and insult.
Time to call our illustrious PM for advice on executing a 'deft' U-turn ...or maybe not
It does however seem time to belatedly wrap this up.
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DownWest
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Yep!
Brent Swain
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What other options did they give? The suggestion that you should fight the fire, means leaving the boat open enough to let a firefighter breath, which is enough to keep the fire roaring, until you are driven off the boat, very quickly, which amounts to the same thing.
I mean to put question marks at the end of those sentences.
My typo.
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Brent Swain
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Discussions on successful, well proven ways to put out a fire on a steel boat are not useful ,until you have that problem.,
Brent Swain
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The time to check out and prefect firefighting abilities like the ability to seal a boat quickly in a fire, should be practiced well before any fire occurs,and any unsealable air leaks found and corrected.
A boat which cant be easily sealed ,has no business going to sea anyway.
A friend who fought a foam fire said forget dry chem , don't waste your money on it . Go for CO2.
CO2, being heavier than air, fills the boat from the bottom up, when being caused by fire, That leaves that area unable to support a fire. You have to somehow get air below that layer for a fire to continue . A hatch or vent on top wont do it.
If I leave a kero lamp on, with the boat closed up, you can see the flame get smaller and smaller, despite there being plenty of wick and fuel. You can also feel the skin on your forehead start to get a tight feeling from the CO and CO2 filling the boat , No fire could burn in that.
I'd use that , if I ever had a cockroach problem.
We had a discussion on the origamiboat site, about a "fire port" in your engine compartment, to stick a CO2 extinguisher in, and fill the engine compartment easily, the rest being sealed. Some good points made
A boat which cant be easily sealed ,has no business going to sea anyway.
A friend who fought a foam fire said forget dry chem , don't waste your money on it . Go for CO2.
CO2, being heavier than air, fills the boat from the bottom up, when being caused by fire, That leaves that area unable to support a fire. You have to somehow get air below that layer for a fire to continue . A hatch or vent on top wont do it.
If I leave a kero lamp on, with the boat closed up, you can see the flame get smaller and smaller, despite there being plenty of wick and fuel. You can also feel the skin on your forehead start to get a tight feeling from the CO and CO2 filling the boat , No fire could burn in that.
I'd use that , if I ever had a cockroach problem.
We had a discussion on the origamiboat site, about a "fire port" in your engine compartment, to stick a CO2 extinguisher in, and fill the engine compartment easily, the rest being sealed. Some good points made
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Brent Swain
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Breaching whale falling on a boat? Steel has already proven itself in that regard. Of South Africa.
bbg
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The video I posted showed a lightweight race boat being forcibly dragged off a beach after being pounded by Brazilian surf for a week. Not a breakwater in sight.
And despite a week of pounding, there was no damage to that boat. No hole in the hull. No structural damage. None.
capnsensible
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Hello again Brent you old plate warming waffler! Still going strong I see, well done.
Missed you in the Balboa yacht club wednesday night. I was on the solid well built and quick performance cruiser that had just completed another 4200 safe and steady miles. Saw literally hindreds of others on the tough durable and easy to maintain grp long distance vessels but only a couple of untrusty rustys.
Hope this finds you well and happy sailing to you.
Missed you in the Balboa yacht club wednesday night. I was on the solid well built and quick performance cruiser that had just completed another 4200 safe and steady miles. Saw literally hindreds of others on the tough durable and easy to maintain grp long distance vessels but only a couple of untrusty rustys.
Hope this finds you well and happy sailing to you.
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