Portofino
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How do you know when it’s time to replace it ....the dear stuff ^^^ ?
Stainless anchor chain or not?
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cherod
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It will probabablly out live you , and the boat
MapisM
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No idea if that's OEM or someone replaced the windlass, but it gets the cake for the silliest ground tackle I've ever seen.
Don't take this personally Porto, but a vertical windlass rotated, in an application requiring an horizontal windlass?!?
And on top of that, using one that includes a maneuvering winch in a place where it would be totally impossible to use it.
If that's OEM, Amati must have been coked up, when he dreamed of that setup.
BruceK
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Ja well no fine Porto. That's exactly how my chain looked last year, even have the surveyors report on it. I can show you. Broker must have given you some chain from the 2nd hand bin. When you replace yours next year you can do the windlass and get rid of that Claw at the same time. They're rubbish 
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Agreed. I guess its a purely styling thing because the designer wanted to keep the foredeck free of any fittings but yes its nuts to have a a winch capstan designed for the purpose of pulling lines hidden away in a locker. Personally I have a problem anyway with hawse pipe type anchor arrangements on small boats anyway. Firstly it limits the choice of anchor to a claw type anchor like a Bruce which IMHO is not the best anchor in many situations and secondly you can't see whether the anchor comes up into the hawse pipe the right way up. We had a similar arrangement on our AZ46 and I lost count of the number of times the Bruce anchor went into the hawse pipe the wrong way up and then got itself stuck there. In fact I ended up buying a pick axe handle and a sledgehammer for the express purpose of whacking the anchor out of the hawse pipe when it got stuck
Portofino
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The chains fine no rust , it’s just been turned around .
Mrs Porto hangs over the bow , + I have a counter anyhow , the wheel is visible RHS of the thing . .Its marked with cable ties too .
Its always arrives the right way up in its hawse which is a S Steel box section...with a a pair of washer jets in .I can give it a fresh water rinse from a dash switch + light on the dash as it’s coming up .
See MapisM...I do believe in FWRinse ...of the appropriate kit
The winch is powerful if anything OTT all works well .
As far as the drum , which has an adjustable clutch , well I have used it once in a visiting marina on a bow line .
Always handy ( I think to have ? ) eg if you tie a rode , Say drop 70 m of chain + 100 m of line .....options !
But yes when the anchor locker lid is closed all this disappears out of sight .So style takes over , but I don’t think it compromises the use of the thing at all .Or hasn’t done thus far .
It is tied off with that blue line as you can see .
As far as the Bruce / claw anchor it seems to work , the weed in the Med is that thin grass and even in the CdA there’s plenty of sandy bottoms about .Here in Liguria it’s all sandy .
But not wanting to start an anchor thread I don’t feel any pressure to even think about a different shape .Yes we have anchored off in wind etc ...even watched others drag while have held ....buts that’s worth 0,02 p in the CdA judging by the 100 s of crap boaters out every day , virtually a daily occurrence in any over a F2 , not the gears fault it’s the operator.
Anyhow any more sensible ideas why they lay out the chain on pallets in hangers ?
It’s not dampness as the drains are at the bottom , and eventually say 6/8 months of winter lay up it will dry out in there .
Its not “ bendy boat syndrome “ either .Ha ha !
Maybe it’s just tradition, in the sense to inspect it while it’s easy in the days pre galvanised , and inspect the swivel and the bitter end in the locker . They just carry on doing it despite its galvanised or S S or was replaced 1 month ago ?
Anyhow it’s harmless enough.
Mrs Porto hangs over the bow , + I have a counter anyhow , the wheel is visible RHS of the thing . .Its marked with cable ties too .
Its always arrives the right way up in its hawse which is a S Steel box section...with a a pair of washer jets in .I can give it a fresh water rinse from a dash switch + light on the dash as it’s coming up .
See MapisM...I do believe in FWRinse ...of the appropriate kit
The winch is powerful if anything OTT all works well .
As far as the drum , which has an adjustable clutch , well I have used it once in a visiting marina on a bow line .
Always handy ( I think to have ? ) eg if you tie a rode , Say drop 70 m of chain + 100 m of line .....options !
But yes when the anchor locker lid is closed all this disappears out of sight .So style takes over , but I don’t think it compromises the use of the thing at all .Or hasn’t done thus far .
It is tied off with that blue line as you can see .
As far as the Bruce / claw anchor it seems to work , the weed in the Med is that thin grass and even in the CdA there’s plenty of sandy bottoms about .Here in Liguria it’s all sandy .
But not wanting to start an anchor thread I don’t feel any pressure to even think about a different shape .Yes we have anchored off in wind etc ...even watched others drag while have held ....buts that’s worth 0,02 p in the CdA judging by the 100 s of crap boaters out every day
, virtually a daily occurrence in any over a F2 , not the gears fault it’s the operator.Anyhow any more sensible ideas why they lay out the chain on pallets in hangers ?
It’s not dampness as the drains are at the bottom , and eventually say 6/8 months of winter lay up it will dry out in there .
Its not “ bendy boat syndrome “ either .Ha ha !
Maybe it’s just tradition, in the sense to inspect it while it’s easy in the days pre galvanised , and inspect the swivel and the bitter end in the locker . They just carry on doing it despite its galvanised or S S or was replaced 1 month ago ?
Anyhow it’s harmless enough.
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Deleted User YDKXO
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2 reasons I guess. Firstly to be able to clean and dry the anchor locker which is generally a filthy place and secondly to be able to stretch the anchor out and repaint any depth markings?
Bajansailor
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Surely the easiest thing to do here would be to just 'end for end' the chain?
This is what we did with our 10 mm galvanised chain once - the only 'hassle' was putting new cable ties on as markers (I had them every 10 metres).
Hurricane
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Interesting
There is an AZ46 in the pontoon down to our boat.
A couple of weeks ago, I saw him struggling with his Bruce anchor on his berth.
He had been out on the lagoon and it was sticking out - upside down.
I offered to give him my old "the twist" (we call it a banana) swivel.
He borrowed it but gave it back with the comment "Thanks but I can't get your banana up my hole"
Bouba
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I’ve used the winch drum more than once. If you are moored Med style, after a storm it can be impossible to take the bow line off the front cleat. Always keep a short length of rope for this purpose.
