Stain and Varnish

[Richard D]

I know it must have been talked about many times but please bare with me.
I need to stain and varnish new wooden parts on my boat and learnt from my usual chandler that international no longer make stain and varnish combined, only straight varnish.
What would you recomend, a stain and varnish combines , like Ronseal or special stain and varnish separately.

Richard

 

[Tranona]

Coloron woodstains are OK on bare wood to get it all the same colour before varnishing. You may need to experiment to get a colour you like, but the stain is relatively cheap. I have a choice of about six colours and do trial bits to help choose the most appropriate. For internal work I then use Ronseal polyurethane satin varnish which is easy to apply and gives a good long lasting finish for very little effort. If you strive for perfection (and you have time and money to spare) Epifanes with rubbed finish for the final coats does give a better finish.

Externally would not bother with all that hard work, but use Sikkens Novatec/top porous woodstain which you can have blended with a colouring. The lighter tints allow the grain to show and give an even colour, but not a gloss finish. Great thing though is that it is extremely durable and cheap and easy to apply and touch up.

 

[LittleShip]

I know it must have been talked about many times but please bare with me.
I need to stain and varnish new wooden parts on my boat and learnt from my usual chandler that international no longer make stain and varnish combined, only straight varnish.
What would you recomend, a stain and varnish combines , like Ronseal or special stain and varnish separately.

Richard

Have a look at Burgess Hydrosol as a stain...

http://www.woodsealer.co.uk/marinewoodsealer.html

That is assuming that you want to use it inside. Used outside it tends to darken with age. Then varnish as normal.

Tom

 

[Richard D]

Thanks

Richard

 

[Richard D]

Coloron woodstains are OK on bare wood to get it all the same colour before varnishing. You may need to experiment to get a colour you like, but the stain is relatively cheap. I have a choice of about six colours and do trial bits to help choose the most appropriate. For internal work I then use Ronseal polyurethane satin varnish which is easy to apply and gives a good long lasting finish for very little effort. If you strive for perfection (and you have time and money to spare) Epifanes with rubbed finish for the final coats does give a better finish.

Externally would not bother with all that hard work, but use Sikkens Novatec/top porous woodstain which you can have blended with a colouring. The lighter tints allow the grain to show and give an even colour, but not a gloss finish. Great thing though is that it is extremely durable and cheap and easy to apply and touch up.

I see you mention Polyurethane "Satin" varnish, why satin finish as opposed to straight high gloss varnish. I tried to look up coloron but got no webs, I see Ronseal sell "satin stain" by mentioning the word "satin" it sounds like it a varnish as well, as I thought straight stains had just a dull fniish, is this correct.

 

[Tranona]

The stain is called Colron and made by Sterling Roncraft. It is a spirit based wood dye which you rub into the bare wood. I have just used it to blend in some mouldings with the dark sapele in my Bavaria. Had my supply for years, but think you can still get it in B&Q. The varnish is Ronseal Tough Coat clear satin polyurethane - again B&Q. Satin is better in the inside as it is really difficult to get a good finish with standard high gloss yacht varnish and every imperfection shows. The satin finish is softer and warmer - to me, anyway, but it is a matter of taste. Most production boat interiors use a non gloss finish because of the difficulty of getting a perfect gloss finish without a huge amount of work and a good clean environment to work in.