pmagowan
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to cook the bacon!
Nay it is all just banter over the non-important issue of flags, or as we call them in Norn Iron, flegs!
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SSR - Should I renew?
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to cook the bacon!
Nay it is all just banter over the non-important issue of flags, or as we call them in Norn Iron, flegs!Tranona
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Perhaps because the subject (not your sensible question!) seems to attract the anarchists, class warriors etc and those who are just bored trolls!
sailorman
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In one
chinita
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I'm sure he could if he tried, but probably didn't try because reading large legal documents is tedious at the best of times. Unfortunately he also doesn't want to listen to advice so the process of learning appears to have stalled
Ah, but, you see......viago does not use Google and I doubt he can be arsed going to the library. Much easier to obfuscate by asking us to define 'ship' - and then arguing with the result.
BrianH
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A common belief, generally correct but not always true. I am in Italy and fly the Italian ensign (civil, not naval) from the starboard spreader, which annoys my Italian friend, a retired army general, who, having served as the Italian military attaché in Bonn during his service days and as an avid sailor, knows his flag etiquette. As he leaves me in no doubt, the correct Italian courtesy flag is the plain tricolour country flag, not the maritime ensign. It would seem that for "courtesy flag rules", there are no rules. Some courtesy flags are the maritime flag, others are the country flag.
Graham_Wright
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………and there is a distinction between the Union Jack and the Union Flag. I think the Union Jack with a white border can be flown from the bow staff if the ensign (red, or blue) is worn at the stern. If the white ensign is worn, I think the union Flag can be flown at the jack staff.
sailorman
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A Union Flag is only flown from the Jack Staff on a British War ship hence "The Union Jack"
Graham_Wright
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……and not the RYS? (It's a question!).
sailorman
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was that an invitation
Graham_Wright
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No - a genuine question.
sailorman
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i have no idea what the RYS do
Graham_Wright
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They can wear the white ensign. The question was - does that entitle them to fly the Union Jack (at the bow).
sailorman
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i would say no
VicS
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They can fly a union jack ... the Union flag with a white border but not the union flag itself. That can only be flown by RN and RAF vessels, never by merchant ships or yachts.
The union flag defaced with a badge at the centre is the official flag of certain high officers of government ( eg governors of colonies) and when on board a merchant ship or yacht in an official capacity his flag may be flown from the masthead, or a staff in the bows if there is no mast
viago
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not much heat here, just some chest beating from the mutual admiration society.
sorry to have caused controversy on your thread but the issue of registration, more than flag flying, is something more sinister than most people realise.
keep you £25 in your pocket and keep ownership of your boat (providing that it's not already been "regis"tered).
richardabeattie
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It has already been registered. So what? I am simply not going to renew it.
Stork_III
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Isn't the Union flag with a white border, a Pilot Jack not a Union Jack?
VicS
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Yes . Its a union jack when used, without the white border, on RN and RAF vessels. Sorry muddled up a bit in attempt to be a brief as possible.
prv
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No comment on nomenclature at sea, but on land it's legitimately the Union Jack too.
Pete
pmagowan
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I think the problem is the Queen now owns your boat and all who sail in her so you will likely be getting a knock on your door next time she wants to go for a spin.
