Squadron 58 2004 Front Hatch

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The front hatch on my S58 decided to leak just as i was going to bed!

The rain was very heavy which I am sure did not help.

Pics below.

The water was coming in between the rubber and the plexiglass ( not the bottom of the seal) so it needs a refurb. The glass is slightly crazed ( the image looks bad but it is condensation) so the options are new ones or a new seal.

Can anyone identify please the make / model and do they sell a refurb kit?

The plexiglass seems to slide into the surround and then be held there by mastic, so replacement of the plexiglass is also a possibility.

Thank you as ever


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And to prove that the weather was nice, a pic taken by Rick ( Cloud9 on here) in Mondrago the day before!

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Google “Bomar “ hatches
They do refurb kits / o rings / seals etc .
Irrc American firm with great customer service .

I had to refurb the hatch over the bow cabin bed on the Sunseeker .Theres an inevitability to hatches over beds , with time = drips .

Here -http://pompanettellc.com/bomar/
 
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jrudge said:
And to prove that the weather was nice, a pic taken by Rick ( Cloud9 on here) in Mondrago the day before!
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Lovely pic of a great boat, but she seems to be sitting a bit low in the water, astern. Or is that due to a momentary wave, maybe?
Sorry, can't help with the hatch!
 
Yes always.

They go on deck when we leave the berth and back over the side when we arrive so we can move round deck. Just looked at some pics I took of other boats and they all had fenders down as well so certainly for me it is normal.

I don’t use the fender racks as it is a pita and I like them down at anchor incase anyone hits me - Particularly when over night.
 
petem said:
Do you always put your fenders out at anchor :)!
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I suspect that jrudge reasoning is the same as mine:
1) life's too short to stow away fenders properly after leaving your berth, so you just pull them inside the gunwales.
2) for anchoring, you need to reach the bow, so you throw them outside - possibly just on one side, for the same reason as in (1).

An additional thought - valid for my old lady and also for the Sq58 - is that if you have one side door, it's more logical to throw the fender outside wherever the side door is, i.e. stbd, in this case. :encouragement:

PS: someone might argue that with the AnCam you can avoid (2), but aside from the fact that as you know I rate that bit of kit in the OMDB category, I'm not aware of any safe system for locking the anchor chain which can be remotely operated, so at least for that reason you still need to go to the bow also with the AnCam… :rolleyes:

PPS: posted before reading jrudge reply!
 
MapisM said:
Lovely pic of a great boat, but she seems to be sitting a bit low in the water, astern. Or is that due to a momentary wave, maybe?
Sorry, can't help with the hatch!
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It has a slight list to the stbd which as I wonder round marinas some have and some don’t.

I think what you are seeing is an illusion of stern low bought about by the list that makes the top of the anti foul disappear. It seems level when on board.

List could be due to the Williams as the back of it is on that side. Can’t flip it As the hole distances for the cradles are different which is annoying !

When we bought the s65 I was there as they added huge volumes of lead to level it out!
 
jrudge said:
When we bought the s65 I was there as they added huge volumes of lead to level it out!
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Wow, I never heard of P boats ballasted - let alone with HUGE volumes of lead, which is bound to mean huge weight...
Is anyone else aware of this practice, maybe also with other models and/or builders? Just curious.
 
MapisM said:
Wow, I never heard of P boats ballasted - let alone with HUGE volumes of lead, which is bound to mean huge weight...
Is anyone else aware of this practice, maybe also with other models and/or builders? Just curious.
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Was right at the back then Covered in epoxy.

I suspect they all do it as with different fits etc they won’t be precisely balanced.
 
MapisM said:
Wow, I never heard of P boats ballasted - let alone with HUGE volumes of lead, which is bound to mean huge weight...
Is anyone else aware of this practice, maybe also with other models and/or builders? Just curious.
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yes, our Karnic had some sheets of lead in the bilge on P side, (to compensate with the extra weight of the heads and helm station on SB side I guess)
at the time we took it out, while fitting a invertor, and rearranging some other stuff...
 
MapisM said:
Wow, I never heard of P boats ballasted - let alone with HUGE volumes of lead, which is bound to mean huge weight...
Is anyone else aware of this practice, maybe also with other models and/or builders? Just curious.
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My Targa 64 also has quite a quantity of lead bars situated in compartments within the bilge to the outside of the starboard engine. Primary to counteract the weight of the hydraulic thruster pump, engine batts, acon/heating chillers/pumps and various other hydraulic pumps, shore power management unit etc, all located on the port side. Against only the weight of the crew cabin fitout on starboard side.
The boat still listed a bit to port, but with the life raft now also located to starboard within the fender locker its pretty level.
The bars are just rested within the compartments and not glassed in, looks a bit temporary and naff, mine is only hull number 2 though, you'd hope they sealed in the lead on later hulls.
 
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Was right at the back then Covered in epoxy.

I suspect they all do it as with different fits etc they won’t be precisely balanced.
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Seen Lead shot used quite often and on Fairlines in the past, Thats why they ride bow up (Only joking)
But seriously have seen quite a few times but normally on 01 boats its usually bonded in and then laminated over and flow coated. Looks normal part of build.
I actually saw 700kg put in a boat once which helped lift the bow and rectify list.
 
The lead in the 65 is behind the crew cabin wardrobe. MAPISM bear in mind there must be "vast" amounts to make any difference at all!

I dont recall how much they put in but it was quite a lot. They then put "epoxy" or similar over it and put the wardrobe back. You would only find it if you were looking hard.
 
MapisM said:
Wow, I never heard of P boats ballasted - let alone with HUGE volumes of lead, which is bound to mean huge weight...
Is anyone else aware of this practice, maybe also with other models and/or builders? Just curious.
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found some in my sealine on saterday ,in canvas bags
 
BartW said:
yes, our Karnic had some sheets of lead in the bilge on P side, (to compensate with the extra weight of the heads and helm station on SB side I guess)
at the time we took it out, while fitting a invertor, and rearranging some other stuff...
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I heard many years ago a certain Poole builder used lots of concrete to even up ballast
 
Well, you live and learn, as they say.
My old lady was heavily ballasted, but that's pretty normal with D hulls, and for very good reasons.
With P boats, weight is an enemy to fight, and I would expect ballast to be used only as a last resort, after exploiting all other possibilities to eliminate residual list, if any.
But obviously it's more common practice than I thought.

Reminds me of a debate that I had last year, when I told Mr.DP that I didn't like the OEM battery placement in my boat, because the domestic ones are arranged in two parallel banks with 4x6V batteries each, and one of these banks is fully on stbd side, while the other is split between stbd and port (together with engine batts), hence with a different length of the interconnecting cables.
First world problem, I know. But I'm sure that annageek would approve my concern... Apropos, she hasn't been around for a while!
Anyway, when I told him that I was considering to move two domestic batteries in order to have the same cable lengths on both banks, he almost insulted me, on the basis of weight distribution. And I was talking of shifting about 60Kg placed at less than one meter from the centerline to the same position on the opposite side, go figure.
I don't dare thinking what his view would be on the use of lead bars! :eek:
 
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