petem
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I've watched that video a few times. Notable that the T34 hasn't depreciated im that time. Sealine probably hasn't either.
Sports cruiser with social cockpit
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DavidJ
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In 2002 I bought my S37 new for £134k
I could possibly get that for it today.
Of course you have to factor in inflation and using an inflation calculator £134k in 2002 is £230k today
matt8442
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In Too Deep could I recommend my boat a Sunseeker San Remo 35? She is 1992 and had an extensive refit. I’ll add the link on here so you can see the advert and the video that me and my wife Emily did with Aquaholic. I can PM you all the details of the work carried out and she has bow and stern thrusters to make docking very easy…1992 Sunseeker San Remo Sports Cruiser for sale - YachtWorld
matt8442
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And here’s the aquaholic video.
Nito
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What a cracking video Matt, I love Nick's vids. The boat looks great, I'd seen it for sale but didn't recognise it as yours in its stealth colours.
@intoodeep , I think you'd definitely be on the right lines looking at a Sunseeker and you've got a healthy budget to get a good one. We also were looking for a party cockpit, the main boats came down to a San Remo 33/35 a Martinique 36,38,39, in the end we ended up at a Portofino 400 which was a bit of a jump particularly as a first boat but I've not regretted it one bit. You're almost spoilt for choice with that budget, apart from both Sunseekers already mentioned which look like well cared for boats, there are some others I'd also add to the mix;
You can go older with a San Remo 33, yes it puts you in a late 80's boat, this one seems ridiculous VFM at the moment at £29,995, these give you the cockpit size you want in about the smallest length;
Sunseeker San Remo 33 Used Boat for Sale 1986
A Martinique 39 gets you wrap around seating, we tried to buy this 1994 one earlier in the year...currently up at £69,995 (the seller pulled out at the time but he since contacted us after the season to say it was available). We cancelled the survey but we did go on a sea trial and the lovely Yamaha engines were smooth and refined with plenty of poke.
Used Sunseeker Martinique 39 yacht for sale in United Kingdom
Finally if you were to stretch your budget, you could get a 1997 Portofino 400 on shaft drive, nice one for sale here £109,950 which you may be able to negotiate;
Sunseeker Portofino 400 Used Boat for Sale 1997
don't be fooled by the horseshoe seating thinking that it's smaller than the above, the boat despite only being a foot longer is 410mm beamier than the Martinique 39 and you could easily accommodate 8 in full comfort and I expect 12 easy at a push. In fact we've been out many times with 8 and a dog, you can get 8 around the table alone at a push and 2 on each front seat. This one also has plenty of space around the engine bay to work on it. It's over budget but just something to add to the mix. You gain in so far as it's among the latest available of this style party boat, it's size makes it very comfortable on the water and berthing is easy despite its size with the twin shafts. I believe I could bring it in singlehandedly now and it's a doodle with two as you can just step off the rear platform and have an easy walk through door, easy to board with dog too. You'll also have less maintenance since you won't need to have legs (outdrives) serviced but it's a dearer boat. Most sub 40ft boats of this type seem to be on outdrives, in fact the Portofino 400 is also available with outdrives for less money.
Alternatively, the Fairline Targa's also seem a popular choice, I didn't consider anything other than a Sunseeker because clearly I'm a fanboy
but they would seem to fit the bill well too.
Good luck,
Nito
@intoodeep , I think you'd definitely be on the right lines looking at a Sunseeker and you've got a healthy budget to get a good one. We also were looking for a party cockpit, the main boats came down to a San Remo 33/35 a Martinique 36,38,39, in the end we ended up at a Portofino 400 which was a bit of a jump particularly as a first boat but I've not regretted it one bit. You're almost spoilt for choice with that budget, apart from both Sunseekers already mentioned which look like well cared for boats, there are some others I'd also add to the mix;
You can go older with a San Remo 33, yes it puts you in a late 80's boat, this one seems ridiculous VFM at the moment at £29,995, these give you the cockpit size you want in about the smallest length;
Sunseeker San Remo 33 Used Boat for Sale 1986
A Martinique 39 gets you wrap around seating, we tried to buy this 1994 one earlier in the year...currently up at £69,995 (the seller pulled out at the time but he since contacted us after the season to say it was available). We cancelled the survey but we did go on a sea trial and the lovely Yamaha engines were smooth and refined with plenty of poke.
Used Sunseeker Martinique 39 yacht for sale in United Kingdom
Finally if you were to stretch your budget, you could get a 1997 Portofino 400 on shaft drive, nice one for sale here £109,950 which you may be able to negotiate;
Sunseeker Portofino 400 Used Boat for Sale 1997
don't be fooled by the horseshoe seating thinking that it's smaller than the above, the boat despite only being a foot longer is 410mm beamier than the Martinique 39 and you could easily accommodate 8 in full comfort and I expect 12 easy at a push. In fact we've been out many times with 8 and a dog, you can get 8 around the table alone at a push and 2 on each front seat. This one also has plenty of space around the engine bay to work on it. It's over budget but just something to add to the mix. You gain in so far as it's among the latest available of this style party boat, it's size makes it very comfortable on the water and berthing is easy despite its size with the twin shafts. I believe I could bring it in singlehandedly now and it's a doodle with two as you can just step off the rear platform and have an easy walk through door, easy to board with dog too. You'll also have less maintenance since you won't need to have legs (outdrives) serviced but it's a dearer boat. Most sub 40ft boats of this type seem to be on outdrives, in fact the Portofino 400 is also available with outdrives for less money.
Alternatively, the Fairline Targa's also seem a popular choice, I didn't consider anything other than a Sunseeker because clearly I'm a fanboy
but they would seem to fit the bill well too.Good luck,
Nito
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chillee
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I like the look of the Remo 33 a lot. Considered it for myself TBH. Spoke with the dealer who was very honest and said it is tired and in need of some work. A running project he called it.
Engines run ok, serviced every year, but he would recommend it's time for a refurb, and there is a lot of crazing all over the gelcoat that would need sorting or covering in someway. It sounded like there was a deal to be had on the asking price if someone is up for the task. Not the right boat for me though.
Nito
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That crazing is a pain and explains the price then. We looked at a couple like that and dismissed them almost straightaway, no amount of elbow grease will bring that back and I’m not convinced with the longevity of repaints and the cost is prohibitive.
On paper that SR33 looks great 2 owners, last one for like 21 years, it’s still a lot of boat for the money. We looked at a mint one, beautifully done which was re-engined with AD41’s in like 2000, but osmosis and ultimately a portion of rotten rear bulkhead put paid to that, but for a while we were going to either entertain it as a project or just enjoy it for what it was.
If that is all that’s bad about the boat and the rest is fundamentally sound, a wrap would freshen the exterior right up for the right person. I’ve not seen a whole boat wrapped up close to know what it’s like on the topsides and how durable it is, it seems to work well on the lowers. There is something about the SR33’s that I have a real soft spot for them, proportionally I think they look great, quite squat and I love the classic SS lines of them and glass screens and of course the use of space on them in and out is tremendous. The Rapallo as a shaft version of it would also be interesting, though not many around!
chillee
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same here re wraps. In the video posted above, it seems everything external and in the cockpit is wrapped. Would love to see a boat like that after 2 or 3 years to see how it fairs.
matt8442
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So far so good, boat was wrapped in January and the wrap has been holding up to wear and tear quite well. Plus we have spare patches so if we did get any damages we can patch over it. Over all its not as bad as I thought it would be and certainly freshens up the boat.
chillee
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Good to know Matt.
Out of interest what did you do on your non slip decks. from the video it looks like the whole thing is seamlessly wrapped?
Considering doing a partial wrap on my little Hardy Seawings, or, just to get new decals and stripes as she looks rather tired.
matt8442
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Hi Chilee our non slip decks were painted the same colour as the wrap and then the wrap applied after the painting. The paint was some kind of rubberised synthetic (A bit like neoprene) which allows a non stick surface and also allows movement when you walk on it to stop cracking. This was something that Yacht Solutions had recommended as their project boat the Martinique had problems initially in the busy walkway areas with people slipping on the wrap or it coming away from the boat. The only way to solve this was for them to paint these areas as described above. Again we had a busy year last year on our boat, plenty of use, and no sign of any wear and tear yet on the non slip surfaces.