spinnaker pole with headsail

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If i have my spinnaker pole set up on an uphaul & downhaul for when i am poleing out the headsail with my jib sheet through the end, can i gybe or tack as normal and will the pole stay put or will that swing around, or is the pole made rigid with the up haul & downhaul, i get confused when some say you can furl & unfurl your jenny when you are tacking & gybing, when i thought you can just tack & gybe as normal & move your pole later, hpoe you underststand the question.
Dave.
ps. does the spinnaker pole remain riged when you tack & gybe.
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jib sheet will almost certainly catch in the end of the pole and cause a big problem. disconnect it first, drop the pole down and gybe then connect up again.

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Try rigging a topping lift, forward and a backwards downhauls to triangulate the pole position and then use an extra (lazy) sheet through the end of the pole. You can then tack or furl the jib with no problems.



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Unless your spinnaker pole is very short, it will not clear the forstay. You need to disconnect the sheet from the spinnaker pole before gybing and then reconnect it to the opposite sheet having gone through the wind.

Waypoint

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Unlikely it'll remain stable with just an uphall and downhall on it. If you really want to have the pole stable you'll need a guy on it.
The end of a spinnaker pole is designed to have ropes running through it though, so once it is fixed in place you will be able to gybe with the pole in place.

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I often use my spinnaker pole with the genoa if it's too windy for the proper spinnaker. I don't bother with up or downhauls but make the jib sheet bowlines a bit bigger than normal and hook the pole end into the loop. That way it can't slip down the sheet and foul the shrouds. With the sheet tight the genny is pulled nice and flat and goosewinging is easy. You can even sail with the foresail by the lee and get drive with the telltales flying backwards.

To gybe you have to take the pole off the mast to get it past the forestay.

Geoff

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If you are using double sheets (working and lazy) on each side, then you may be able to get away with it. If you are using single sheets, there is a higher likelihood of getting a tangle.

All depending on wind strength and number of crew performing the evolution.

small crew, high wind, do it the long way cause in the long run it will be cheaper (less likelihood to damage sails and gear. On a racing boat gybing the spinaker is possible this way, and very fast, but they have the crew numbers, are used to doing it, and a spinnaker sheet will not have to run so far through the pole as a genoa sheet (unless you have a very small genoa!)

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This has been discussed before, more than once, but I say again;

The way I was taught was to rig the pole on its uphaul and down haul, just as you would for the spinnaker, with a spinnaker sheet running through the end fitting, before gybing the genoa. (The pole will lie gently against the forestay ) This sheet is then clipped onto the genoa clew and used to gybe the genoa.

This avoids the balancing act on the foredeck with the pole in one hand and the genoa clew in the other while you hang on to the boat with ????????.

It also means you can gybe the genoa back again without having to unclip it from the pole or you can sheet it in under the pole, with its own sheet, if you wish to gybe completely onto the new tack. Or you can furl the genoa if necessary

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Our experience is the same Geoff - no need for up or downhauls due to the sheeting alignment of the genoa meaning that the clew does not rise (or drop). We use an uphaul only for assistance when lifting the pole to clip it on from under the sheet.

Our experience is also that there is no need to clip the pole through the bowline at the genoa clew, just lifting it and clipping it onto the sheet from underneath close to the bowline is sufficient - have never had it ride along the sheet but others mileage may differ if their sheeting arrangement is not so well set up.

In our own case, gybing with the pole in place is academic as the pole is both too long to clear the forestays and is semi-permanently attached to its car on the mast - is a cruising not race boat (and even if it wasn't so attached the inner forestay would still prevent gybing with the pole attached to the sheet).

John

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